Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I think the NATO story kind of goes with everything that's going on in Iran. The president went up to them and said, hey, listen, we need you guys to be with us. Are you with us or not? I'm just paraphrasing. And it was a very different approach. I think here Starmer came out.
If you have that clip, Rob, if you want to play the clip with Starmer, here's what he had to say about their involvement in a war with Iran. Go for it. Our priority is always the national interest. and so we have been clear and consistent in our objectives throughout this conflict. First, we will protect our people in the region.
Second, while taking the necessary action to defend ourselves and our allies, we will not be drawn into the wider war. And third, we will keep working towards a swift resolution. that brings security and stability back to the region and stops the Iranian threat to its neighbours.
I want to see an end to this war as quickly as possible because the longer it goes on, the more dangerous the situation becomes and the worse it is for the cost of living back here at home. Okay, so that's Keir Starmer saying that. The president, I think, responds to it as well, Rob. You got maybe a clip on that. There's an article from Wall Street Journal saying U.S.
allies rebuffed Trump's demand for help opening Strait of Hormuz. President Trump is pressuring allies to help open the Strait of Hormuz and relive pressure of the global economy. And relief. So far, most of them aren't biting. Germany has rejected taking part, while Japan and Australia have indicated they are unlikely to send vessels to help.
Britain and France said they are assessing possible action but haven't committed to doing anything before fighting halts. All are close U.S. allies. On Monday, German defense... Minister Boris Pistorius dismissed Trump's call for help, asking rhetorically what Trump expects a handful or two handful of European frigates to accomplish in the Strait of Hormuz that the powerful U.S.
Navy there cannot achieve on its own. This is not our war. We did not start it. Trump sent a pointed message to allies over the weekend. Rob, is that the clip that you have? Yes, Boris. You want to go to the president first, because I already read this. Just go to the clip you have with the president. Here's the president. Go for it.
I'm very surprised with the United Kingdom, because the United Kingdom, two weeks ago, I said, why don't you send some ships over? And he really didn't want to do it. I said, you don't want to do it. We've been with you. You're our oldest ally. And we spend a lot of money on You know, NATO and all of these things to protect you. I mean, we're protecting them. We're working with them on Ukraine.
Ukraine's thousands of miles away, separated by a vast ocean. We don't have to do that, but we did it. Well, Biden did it. I mean, I have to be honest with you. Biden got taken to the cleaners. But we worked with them in Ukraine. We don't need to work with them in Ukraine. And then they tell us that... Would you have a mine ship around, and they don't want to do it? I think it's terrible.
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Chapter 2: How is the U.S. pressuring NATO allies regarding the Strait of Hormuz?
You know, I parsed the words out, what Strummer said, and at the very open it says, we are interested in our national interest, protecting our people. He sounds very, very noble, and all of a sudden he's of the U.K., by the U.K., for the U.K. Wait a minute. He's a globalist that was caught on a train with Macron hiding a Coke spoon.
And they were talking all about we are family and all these globalist agenda. Suddenly he's the noble statesman, you know, hearkening back to Neville Chamberlain of the UK. I think that the European leadership actually is enjoying the fact that Trump is in what looks like an extended war. I think they are enjoying it. Brandon? Yeah, they don't want a swift ending or to help Trump save face here.
I mean, the audacity after all that we've done for them, I mean, not once, not twice, but three times we've been there for Europe in major ways. I mean, World War I, we saved UK. UK would be decimated if it wasn't for us in World War I. They would be decimated if it wasn't for us in World War II. Then with NATO, we didn't have to do NATO, but
I mean, part of it was just to, like, revamp the military industrial complex. So, I mean, like, we created this fake thing that we didn't even need under the guise of protecting Europe from Russia when Russia wanted to be part of NATO. So, yeah, no, I think we have plenty of leverage over the U.K. and the rest of Europe. They get 50% of their liquid natural gas from America since 2022.
Before that, it was only 10%. So, you know, we could cut that right off if we wanted to. What's given them this much of a backing? Where is the confidence from? That's the interesting part, because they get half of their weapons from us and half their liquid natural gas from us. I mean, either you are double dumb or someone behind closed doors is saying, don't worry about it. We have your back.
Because while this is going on, Trump was supposed to go visit Xi March 31st. And he said, we'll see based on how the calls go. Well, guess what? The calls apparently didn't go as planned because Trump says U.S. asked China to delay Xi meeting a month or so due to Iran war. So why are we delaying it? Rob, you want to play that clip? Is this him? Yep. Go for it. I don't know.
We're working on that right now. We're speaking to China. I'd love to, but because of the war, I want to be here. I have to be here, I feel.
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Chapter 3: What are the national interests of European countries in the Iran conflict?
And so we've requested that we delay it a month or so, and I'm looking forward to being with them. We have a very good relationship. So to me, is this NATO and those guys are sitting around saying, hey, we got to be careful with China. Maybe China's got our back. You know, let's kind of sit this one out. NATO, if you look up who gives the most money to NATO, we know who it is.
This is something that everybody knows, that U.S. gives the most money. I don't know how many... Billions of dollars. We helped them out. He made the point with Ukraine. We gave how much money under Biden to Ukraine? $300 billion. How much? I think $300 billion. I think it's $160 to $200 billion. It could be $300 billion at this point. Yeah, buckets of money. Under the table, too.
Of comeback, weapons, all this stuff. Yeah, we've seen the numbers at this point. The numbers are... So we are willing to help, but you don't want to give the two ships until after... The war is over with. That's what you want to give.
Chapter 4: How does Trump's approach differ from European leaders on military involvement?
You know, it's like a bank. The bank wants to lend you money, wants to deck a millionaire, but you needed the money to start the business. They don't want to give you any money. We'll give you the money when you're no longer a risk. So, but I don't know. To me, the question is, where's the audacity coming from? Starmer said it. He said, look, we want this over to be as quickly as possible.
What would be the easiest way to get this over as quickly as possible? Help. Everybody get involved and get it done, right? I mean, because Trump has said we're in this— The weight of the West. Right, exactly. Oh, but this is—here's what's going to happen. So why are they—why would they not do that?
If your interest is to end this as quickly as possible, then join, get it done, get it over with, and move on. Let me read a quote. Let me read a quote to you, okay, which may be—
they need to hear here's a quote okay you ready and a part of this quote i love okay i love when i read this quote no friend ever served me no enemy ever wronged me who i have not repaid in full lucius cornelius sulla let me read this one more time no friend ever served me and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full. A ruthless Roman dictator in general, right?
That's who he was back in the days, uncompromising. An element of Trump is he's an uncompromising guy that is going to remember these moments. So what does this mean? If you're an ally, we have your back. If you're an enemy, we will never forget. And we know Trump's never going to forget. I think this is a dumb move because a part of this that they can use as leverage is the following way.
Here's how I would do it. Let's just say you're part of these NATO countries. What if you come out and say, Mr. President, we are absolutely with you. We all have your back with one reasoning. What's that? We want to make one ask. You cannot raise tariffs above 10% the next 24 months. Go back to these following levels.
If you do this because this is going to be a cost to us, if you're willing to do this, we're all in. What would you like to do? This is an opportunity for them to negotiate. I don't know if you understand. With a dealmaker. Yeah, guess what? Instead of just being like, I'm out. Listen. Maybe the president is like wanting to make a deal with you right now. Propose something.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of NATO's hesitance to support the U.S.?
What if we do this? And by the way, how do you know that's not been talked about? If it's been talked about, maybe somebody could leak it to the market and say, hey, you know, what if in this moment where you're coming to us for help? Great. Give us a two-year contract.
commitment the real number you want to negotiate for not raising tariffs is what how many years it's not two years it's three years exactly why do you want three years because he's out in three years yeah and you're hoping the guy that comes after him so i don't know i think a part of this is trump's not going to forget yes and in two years when you guys desperately need him he will not forget how you handle this and he's going to delay the support for you then what's going to happen you don't think you're going to need to help on the other way around
Who do you think needs whose help more often? You know what it's like? It's like when a guy comes to you for help 19 times, you go to help for one time, but the one time you go to help for him, he holds it over your head, and you're like, I'm sorry, what did you just do? I helped you 19 times, and the one time I need you, you're using this as a wow. Okay, no problem. Let me get back to it.
No friend ever served me. and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full, you're going to get paid in full. That's what I think is what's really bad about this.
I think the calculation from the Europeans is that they're betting that gasoline prices and diesel prices, which we're going to talk about, they're betting that gasoline prices and diesel prices inflict enough pain on the American voter that they get Trump to relent. To call a quick, you know, call a victory, then just, you know, go back to the way it was.
And I think that's a political calculation in both directions. First of all, from their own perspective, but also from the Trump perspective. So, go ahead, Tom. I agree with that 100%. I'm sorry to cut you off right there. There are two types of leadership. There is clear vision leadership, and then you go all the way downhill from that to pure political leadership.
Pat, the Europeans have always been political leadership. Political leadership, conversations, muddy visions. We'll consider it. We'll think it over. Whereas clear vision leadership is Mr. Gorbachev, take down this wall. It's very clear, very defined. The Europeans think they have allies right now. They think the midterm election in the United States is an ally.
They think the Democrats in the United States is an ally. They think an upset consumer is an ally. They don't have to have clear leadership, Pat. They're waiting for everything else to pinch Trump.
They would rather than go out and stating what they want the future world to be, where they want to go, what they want to do, how they want to get there, how they want to provide for their people in the future. Rather than that, they'd rather let other things happen. You know, it's astonishing to me to see this. But you know what it is? It's U.N. leadership because they are still globalist.
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Chapter 6: How do political motivations affect NATO's response to the Iran conflict?
Look at what's starting to happen right now in the U.K. He's got his own issues in his backyard as the people of the U.K. He's the most unpopular prime minister in U.K. history. In U.K. history. And the people are starting to erupt about the rape gangs and about things that are going on. And he's up there interested in the people. He was about to resign anyways, guys.
I mean, he was about to resign. So I think at any point in the next few months, we could be like, it's the end of it. Rob ran a poll here. Should NATO support the U.S. in helping keeping the Strait of Hormuz? It's an 80-20 issue, okay, even with our audience. Our audience is a reasonable audience that watches and gets involved. So 80% saying yes, 20% is saying no.
To the 20% saying no, can you put in the comment section why not? And can all of you guys debate it out, the reasonable players. Can you guys debate it out? I do want to talk to you guys about something. A lot of you guys DM me and message me and say, hey, you know, how do I become a member of the Cigar Lounge, the boardroom that you have here?
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