"You Flipped" - Michael Cohen GRILLED For Turning On Trump
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Who has Michael Cohen's back today?
Who has Michael Cohen's back today? Here's why I ask this question. Of course, in 06, when he started working with them. My wife and children. Okay, but in 06, you're working with them. From business side, Trump has your back. Then there's a falling out. You flip, FBI, time, prison.
Actually, I hate that word.
Let me just finish this, and you say whatever you want. So then you go to the left, whatever word you want to call it. You're the darling of the left. You know, Jimmy Kimmel has you on MSNBC, CNN, everybody has you on. Then you go to Midas Touch. And by the way, Midas Touch, their entire they even talk about this.
Why does Michael Cohen reject the term 'flip'?
Their vision, why they started Midas Touch in March of 2020 was to prevent the president from getting reelected. That was their entire MO to get reelected. You have a show with them. I even think you have a show with one of the founders. If I'm not mistaken, his name is Ben, if I'm not mistaken. Is that his name, Ben? Right. So you have a show with them, and then you come out and you say the following comments. And you said you were compelled and coerced to only provide information and testimony that would satisfy the government's desire to build the case. against and secure a judgment and convictions against Trump, you say this in your sub stack. Not a crazy thing. This is your opinion against Letitia James and Alvin Bragg.
Then we get news that Midas touched dropsy. This is 10 or 12 days ago. Drops fired, cutting away, whatever word they want to use.
How did Michael Cohen's relationship with Trump change over time?
They fired the podcast and they move on. If you were at any other place, you're not getting fired. So your position today, who has Michael Cohen's back? I want to hear your thoughts.
My wife, my daughter, my son, and those people who are more centrist. I have no issue with Ben or his brothers, Brett or Jordy. We're still friends. We still speak. We're just not doing business together. And I understand the reason why they did what they did. They have a very left-leaning constituency. And so they started getting... 10,000, 20,000 people telling them, if Michael Cohen remains on the network, we're unsubscribing. Just for that comment? Yes, sir.
What led to Cohen being canceled by both sides?
Just for that comment. Now, these people didn't just make that threat. They actually did it. And it was a significant amount of money. And they have as you do, a large payroll. And so I said, I understand. I understand. And I have to be me. And you have to be you. But we're still friends. And we still will remain friends even after this. But I have friends who are on the far, far left. And I have friends who are on the far, far right. And everyone is entitled to their opinion.
What impact did Midas Touch have on Michael Cohen's career?
I prefer when you give your opinion that it's predicated off of facts, not something you pull out of your ass. I do prefer that. But everybody has the right. It's the First Amendment.
I get that. But, you know, CNN viewers probably are not a fan of Scott Jennings. He didn't get fired. He got a longer contract, right?
Right. I saw Scott Jennings about two weeks ago.
He's very good at what he does. Scott Jennings, to me, I call him the CEO of CNN because he runs the show there. Without Scott, a lot of people wouldn't be watching CNN.
And on the other side, they would say that Jessica Tarloff is the COO of Fox, too. She's with Greg Gutfeld and Jesse Waters.
How does Cohen reflect on his time in prison and its aftermath?
What I'm saying to you is... Kudos to both institutions for not firing a Michael Cohen. Agreed. Because to me, what's the benefit of a Michael Cohen? You're a complicated character to the average person, right? So to the left or the right, they're like, I don't know, maybe. But what do you do? You at least bring eyeballs. You're at least going to get to say, what does this guy have to say?
Well, I'm certain that your show is going to do great right now. People are going to be, why is Patrick having Michael Cohen? I mean, what's wrong with him? Is Patrick turning PBD podcast into a radical left lunatic show?
Yeah, or even bigger. Am I going to go try to hire you as a fixer?
What are Cohen's thoughts on the justice system and his experiences?
By the way, that'd be a smart move. That'd be a smart move. Are you already turning the cheek? Are you already seeing some demise coming to this administration?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who has Michael Cohen's back today?
0:00–0:33
2
Why does Michael Cohen reject the term 'flip'?
0:33–1:21
3
How did Michael Cohen's relationship with Trump change over time?
1:21–2:13
4
What led to Cohen being canceled by both sides?
2:13–2:54
5
What impact did Midas Touch have on Michael Cohen's career?
2:54–3:34
6
How does Cohen reflect on his time in prison and its aftermath?
3:34–4:17
7
What are Cohen's thoughts on the justice system and his experiences?
4:17–5:07
8
What lessons does Cohen share about loyalty and truth?
5:07–13:01
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