Who is Malala? A question that once shook the world—asked in the face of death, now answered with unwavering bravery. Today, we uncover the story of Malala Yousafzai, a young Pakistani girl who risked her life to stand up for girls' right to education and has since become a global symbol of resilience. Join us as we explore her journey, the impact of her fight, and the legacy that continues to inspire millions around the world. Follow us on Instagram @watchhercookpodcast Sources: Muhammad Salman Khan, Women’s markets: The everyday affective dimensions of Taliban’s violence in Swat, Pakistan, Geoforum, Volume 138. https://malala.org/ Malala Yousafzai-Biography Moving moments from Malala's BBC diary Malala Yousafzai’s Dad On the Importance Of Girls Education Evaluating the Cultural and Social Impacts of the 2009 Military Operation in Swat, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KPK): A Case Study of Operation Rah-e-Rast Malala Yousafzai Wins Nobel Peace Prize 2 Years After Shooting Malala Yousafzai- Nobel Lecture United Nations- Messengers of Peace- Malala Yousafzai Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and what are their personal education stories?
I'm Cassie. And I'm Danielle. Welcome back to Watch Her Cook, a podcast dedicated to sharing the incredible lives of women who have taken their power back throughout history.
Well, in my little intro there, we talked a little bit about school and the importance of school. So let's talk about our own experiences really quick, especially with early education, because I think those are really formative years that a lot of us reflect back on and can kind of trace where our lives have gone based on what we loved or maybe didn't love about what we learned in school.
So do you have anything that you look back on and reflect and say, wow, that's where my first introduction to my interest now took hold.
Yeah, actually, I do have an origin story. I'd love to hear it. Yeah, so I, to this day, I think elementary school is my favorite, which I think maybe a lot of people can relate to because it's probably the most fun years of schooling. Also, maybe some of the most awkward. But I realized pretty young that I was really interested in history.
And I think it was fourth grade where we were given the book called Night by Eli Wiesel, which is a Holocaust book. And I remember reading that and being like, wow, this is history that I didn't know. And it was talking about landscapes and countries I didn't know existed outside of my little bubble. And that was my moment in school where I was like,
I really love history, and I need to learn more. And from then forward, other people would be reading Captain Underpants with all the other kids or Goodnight Moon, and I would be sitting there with some type of historical disaster book at nine years old reading it at night. So that was where I really discovered my love of history and just –
People, more specifically, I loved books that surrounded people who are really important in history and who overcame really difficult situations. And that was what I was drawn to and have continued to be.
And that's why we're friends. That's why we found each other later in life. I just knew that about you the second I met you. I was like, this girl's weird. This girl loved historical accounts in third grade. And I just know that. You could just sense it. I could. Yeah.
I'd love to hear your origin story because I know that we have – similar interests in different ways.
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Chapter 2: Who is Malala Yousafzai and what is her background?
add to the podcast definitely let's add her to the list I that would be a full circle moment for sure Today we're sharing the extraordinary story of Malala Yousafzai, a young girl who risked her life to defend every girl's right to an education while living under Taliban rule in Pakistan.
Her bravery sparked a global movement, and to this day, she remains a powerful voice for change, fighting to ensure that every girl has access to learning. I'm really excited for this one, so let's dive into her story. Malala Yousafzai was born on July 12, 1997, in Mangora, the largest city in the Swat Valley of Pakistan.
She was named after Malala of Maiwan, a courageous Afghan hero who played a pivotal role in rallying troops during the Second Anglo-Afghan War in the 19th century. She grew up in a Pashtun family, an ethnic group known for their rich cultural traditions, and was raised by her parents, Zayodin Yousafzai and Tor Pekai Yousafzai.
Her father was an education activist who co-founded and ran Kushal Public School, a chain of low-cost private schools that sought to provide quality education to children, particularly girls in the Swat Valley.
From a young age, Malala displayed an insatiable thirst for knowledge. While most girls in SWAT were expected to stay at home and learn domestic skills, Malala's world was filled with books, studies, and dreams of a future beyond societal limitations. Her father's influence was instrumental in shaping her belief in the power of education. Having grown up with five sisters...
none of whom were given the opportunity to pursue an education, her father was determined to ensure that Malala would be, quote, a girl who is known by her own name.
When Malala was born, her father's cousin presented him with a family tree that stretched back 400 years, listing only the names of men. Her father took a pen, drew a line from his own name, and wrote Malala. The disapproval on his cousin's face was immediate, but Zayuddin stood firm in his belief that Malala's name and her legacy would shine on its own.
In the early 2000s, life in Swat took a turn for the worse. In 2002, Fazat Hayat, more commonly known by his pseudonym Mullah Fazlullah, became the leader of the Tariq-e-Nafaz-e-Sharia-e-Muhammadi, also referred to as TNSM. TNSM was an Islamic extreme militant group that swore an oath of loyalty to the Pakistani Taliban.
Fazlullah built a loyal support base in the following years by broadcasting sermons on an illegal FM radio channel, which became known as Radio Mullah. Using this platform, he spread his extremist ideology, advocating for the strict implementation of Sharia law, a legal system based on Islamic principles and teachings, which can have dangerous ramifications when interpreted in radical ways.
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Chapter 3: How did Taliban rule impact education in Swat Valley?
Swat, which was once called the Switzerland of the East, known for its lush forests, snow-capped mountains, and natural beauty, had become a war zone. Public punishments became common, including flogging, public beheadings, and suicide attacks, and women were not allowed to leave their homes unless escorted by male family members. In September 2008, when Malala was 11 years old...
She joined her father at a local press club and gave her first speech, titled, How Dare the Taliban Take Away My Right to an Education. The speech was televised throughout the country.
Eleven years old, giving a speech like that on national television, too, where everyone's seeing you say that. Yeah. this most dangerous terrorist group that's ever existed is the person that you're speaking out against at 11 years old.
It just, it gives me chills, honestly. And we do have to go back. I'd like to go back just a second to her dad because she joined her dad, you know, at this local press club and going back to how he was so adamant about being the one in his family to kind of change things. change it up, change the narrative, change how people recognized individuals in their family.
Like they, you know, going back to the family tree and how only the men were recognized for centuries. Right. And he's like, nope, it ends with me. And it starts with my daughter.
Yeah. He said, even though obviously his cousin disapproved of that moment, where he wrote her name down. He didn't care. It was, this is my daughter. I know that she's destined for more. I want her to have an education.
And he, even though he knew that his opinion was not the favorable one, he wasn't afraid to say it, which clearly is a huge influence for her to feel confident, to stand up on national television and say, how dare you take my education away? And without that support, I doubt that that would even be possible, especially in this time.
And I was just thinking back on another thing that you said in this or I said. that they considered a sin was dancing, music, CDs, entertainment. And to have such an extremist group that doesn't want you to enjoy the smaller things in life that make life enjoyable, that is such a, it's such a telling moment in whatever ideology this is, that this is really scary. This is controlling.
This is taking away the things in life that give you joy. There's nothing else to that, right? There's no other reason to take something like that away than to want to suppress a group of people.
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Chapter 4: What early acts of bravery did Malala show against Taliban oppression?
Right. It's not just some small thing.
This isn't like, oh, you shouldn't do that. It's okay. If you do that, you're going to pay with your life and everyone will know it.
Chapter 5: How did Malala’s father influence her fight for education?
Yes. And she's going out saying these things knowing, I mean, she's living this, right? She's seen it. She knows what's happening in town and she knows what's happening with this militant group and still. Despite that, she's willing to stand up and say these things, which is incredible. And something I can't help but do when I hear this story is think of myself at 11 years old, right?
And I was never doing something like this, right? Could I picture myself standing on national television to advocate for something so scary? No, because I've never been in that position. But it breaks my heart thinking of her at 11 years old needing to.
Yeah. And the repercussions just couldn't be more severe. Right. It doesn't get worse than that.
No, it doesn't. It really doesn't. And just to be a girl, a small, a child in this position where you have to stand up for yourself in this way or the alternative of that is, of course... complying to this awful regime that's happening. I just put myself in her shoes so much as an 11-year-old girl at one point in my life to have to be living like this and to have to fight for education.
I think that's part of why this story is so important because we have to remember that Not everyone has these rights to education. And people do fight and people do lose their lives. And never give up your right to education because it's so, so important, which is what we're going to dive into in this story.
And I think as everyone listens on, you're going to learn a lot about Malala and everything that she went through. And just how far she went and how far-reaching her voice was.
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Chapter 6: What was the significance of Malala’s anonymous blog under the pen name Gul Makai?
This blog garnered international attention. People around the world were able to witness the struggles of daily life in SWAT from someone who was experiencing it in real time. It was a dangerous move, but it marked the beginning of Malala's journey as an outspoken advocate for girls' education globally.
One of her entries said, quote, The night was filled with the noise of artillery fire and I woke up three times. But since there was no school, I got up later at 10 a.m. Afterwards, my friend came over and we discussed our homework. Today is the last day before the Taliban's edict comes into effect. And my friend was discussing homework as if nothing out of the ordinary had happened.
Today, I also read my diary written for the BBC in Urdu. My mother liked my pen name, Gulmakai. I also like the name because my real name means grief-stricken. The blog ran from January 2009 to March of 2009.
And again, she's so young and she's writing this blog entry detailing what she's going through. And just to think, the night was filled with the noise of artillery fire. I woke up three times. A child in this, there's war going on outside her bedroom. She's detailing what's happening and she's putting it out there for the world.
And I think it's really beautiful, the pen name that she chose and the fact that she's doing it behind this anonymous door. So hopefully people won't know it's her because the repercussions for that are extremely dangerous. But even with that pen name, it's so dangerous. If anyone found out, you mentioned earlier what's happening to these people.
And she's still her father gives her permission and she's doing it knowing that she this is a life or death situation.
Yeah. But again, the kind of grabbing the torch and carrying it like this is important that the world knows. Right. Like people are so invested in this blog because they haven't been shown an inside look before directly from someone experiencing all of this unfold. Right.
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Chapter 7: What dangers did Malala face for standing up to the Taliban?
And writing under this pen name in hopes that it will provide complete anonymity, like you hopefully are disguised behind it, that really gives you the freedom to be unfiltered and say exactly what's happening. So that the truth gets out there in its entirety versus going through some sort of filter or different lens or, you know, just it's not sugar-coated in any way.
You don't have to worry about someone judging you because they know you're the one writing it.
Mm-hmm.
You can write whatever you want. Right. Well, soon after, in 2009, Malala's family made the brave decision to reveal her identity. Ooh. Malala and her father participated in a New York Times documentary, Class Dismissed in the Swat Valley, which captured poignant footage from the final day of school before the Taliban's ban went into effect.
When her father was asked why he allowed Malala to take part in such a risky endeavor, his response was always, we needed to stand up. Her father also believed that because she was a young girl, Malala was not in immediate danger at the time.
In February 2009, the Pakistani government announced a ceasefire agreement with the TNSM, which would allow the implementation of Sharia law in the Malikand division of Pakistan in exchange for the group halting their violent activities.
This solution was deeply divisive, with opposition from both the Pakistani government and the public, who saw it as a dangerous compromise that could grow the Taliban's militant influence. And it wasn't long before it was made clear that the Taliban were not going to hold up their end of the agreement.
In response, the Pakistani military launched Operation Rahirast, also known as the Second Battle of Swat, in an attempt to restore justice.
In May 2009, 2 million people fled their homes. Children and women faced particular hardships as the Taliban targeted and destroyed schools, specifically those for girls. During the conflict, approximately 120 girls' schools and 80 other schools were demolished, 8,000 female educators abandoned their teaching positions, and 80,000 students were forced to withdraw from colleges and schools.
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Chapter 8: How does Malala’s story inspire global advocacy for girls’ education?
By this point, it is estimated that 400 schools had been damaged or destroyed since the Taliban had taken over.
By June 2009, the military declared SWAT had been cleared of the Taliban presence, but life remained difficult, especially for women and girls. SWAT, which had once been a center of tourism, had been left in a state of devastation. The infrastructure had been reduced to rubble, electricity and water were limited, and people were left with psychological scars, and the fight was not over yet.
When we spoke about how there was a ceasefire that was going on, it was almost this glimmer of hope, but then it was only if you agree to what we've been trying to enforce this entire time, which I understand why you would agree to a ceasefire because you're already have your people who are being hung publicly and you have all this detrimental stuff that's already happening.
It's like, please stop. But at the same time, That clearly sparked this whole new thing of, no, we're not doing a ceasefire. Yes, we're doing Sharia law and we're destroying hundreds of schools. So now not only do we not want women to go to school or girls to go to school, but we've actually destroyed every single building that they were able to go to. And we've removed every female teacher.
It's just so it's so devastating, not only because we're talking about devastation at multiple levels, right? Not only the overarching like physical devastation to the land and to infrastructure and just your way of life. And then there's the devastation to access to education and not only where to go. for this education, but who to get education from.
And then there's the psychological devastation of everything that you're going through day to day and all of, it's just, this is so far reaching and it impacts so many facets of life and is so disproportionately targeted at women and their ability to access Education, which clearly is the key to so many other things. I mean, without an education, life is so much harder.
And that's why so many people fight for education.
Well, I just think of my own life. I put myself in this position, right? And how has education helped me? And you start from this elementary school level, which you look at Malala, she's 11. What was I learning then? I was learning reading, writing skills. I was learning how to do math. I was learning things that I have used throughout my entire life. I was learning history, important history.
I was learning geography. I was learning about the world, you know, and- If I didn't have those things, there are so many things about my life that would be really difficult today, right? Getting a job would be hard if I wasn't literate. If I didn't know the histories within the world, it would be hard to understand politics today.
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