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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton

01 Apr 2025

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The Rituals that Make a Magical Life with Michael Norton Harvard Business School professor and author, Michael Norton, discusses the role and importance of rituals in everyday life–and how they can bring meaning, control, and emotional richness to individual lives, relationships, and communities.  -The key difference between habits and rituals—and why rituals hold unique power -The surprising truth behind why you really have rituals for your children’s bedtime -Why chasing happiness is a trap—and what you should aim for instead Michael Norton is a professor at Harvard Business School. He is the author of The Ritual Effect: From Habit to Ritual, Harness the Surprising Power of Everyday Actions, and the co-author - with Elizabeth Dunn - of Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending. His research has been the answer to Final Jeopardy and his TEDx talk, How to Buy Happiness, has been viewed more than 4.5 million times. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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11.405 - 32.054 Abby

Hi, PodSquad. I've been waiting for this episode for a very long time, ever since I started hearing from our guest who is on today, who is going to be talking to us about ritual. And I am delighted about this conversation because I am completely obsessed with rituals. That's all I do all day. So I cannot wait to get into this today.

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32.335 - 55.762 Abby

Obviously, when you think of rituals, you think of Michael Norton, who is a professor at Harvard Business School. He is the author of The Ritual Effect, From Habit to Ritual, Harness the Surprising Power of Everyday Actions, and the co-author with Elizabeth Dunn of Happy Money, The Science of Happier Spending. Ooh, I haven't read that, Michael Norton.

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55.802 - 64.144 Abby

I need to read that one and already have you back for that. Okay, his research, most importantly... has been the answer to Final Jeopardy.

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64.164 - 65.865 Host 1

God, that is a dream of mine.

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65.945 - 75.251 Abby

I mean... I want to be the final Jeopardy answer. That's legit. Now, wait a minute. I have a follow-up question. Did anyone get the answer right? They did.

75.392 - 83.017 Michael Norton

Which was... Yeah, so that's like nerddom beyond belief. I mean, that's peak, peak for me. Big time.

83.037 - 100.958 Abby

Yeah, I will admit, Abby and I have been the answers on Jeopardy three times, which all of a sudden you feel, oh my God, I am so... Very fancy and important. But all three times, nobody's got the answer. Nobody gets the answer. So then that makes you feel suddenly like I am not at all fancy and relevant.

100.978 - 108.983 Host 1

No, it actually makes me feel I'm still niche, which is cool. Okay. Okay. Oh, like you're like edgy, cool. You're like... You got to know to know.

109.463 - 109.803 Host 2

Okay.

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