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Marcus Jones joins the show - Proud to be apart of this team
15 Sep 2025
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Patriots Cornerback Marcus Jones loves to see the excitement from Head Coach Mike Vrabel. He said the defense wanted to make sure they knew where Tyre...
Drake Maye proved the doubters wrong this week
15 Sep 2025
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Who made the biggest impact in the Patriots' win over the Dolphins? The offense was much more aggressive than they were in week one. Is there any conc...
Drake Maye joins the show - Great to be apart of Vrabel's first win with the Patriots
15 Sep 2025
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Patriots Quarterback Drake Maye says the team is not worried about the noise from critics. He and the offense wanted to be efficient and create positi...
Takeaways as Patriots win thriller in Miami | '6 Rings & Football Things'
15 Sep 2025
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From '6 Rings & Football Things' (subscribe here): Nick "Fitzy" Stevens and Andy Hart react as the Patriots defeat the Dolphins 33-27, earning their f...
Best of WEEI Interviews: September 8 - September 12
14 Sep 2025
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The best interviews this week from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and WEEI Afternoons. Hear from Mike Vrabel, Hunter Henry, Drake Maye, Rob Bradfo...
Best of the Patriots on WEEI: Does Drake Maye have ‘it’?
13 Sep 2025
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The best Patriots conversations of the week from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and WEEI Afternoons. Does Drake Maye have “it”? Josh McDaniels...
Best of the Red Sox on WEEI: Will Alex Bregman opt out?
13 Sep 2025
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The best Red Sox conversations of the week from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and WEEI Afternoons. Will Alex Bregman opt out of his contract afte...
9/12/25 - Full Show - Previewing a big weekend in Boston Sports
12 Sep 2025
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The Full WEEI Afternoons Show from 9/12/25. Andy, Fitzy and Ted preview a huge weekend ahead for the Boston sports fan.
HR1 - Previewing a big weekend ahead in Boston Sports
12 Sep 2025
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HR1 - Andy and Fitzy kick off today's show discussing the big weekend ahead for Boston sports between the Red Sox and Yankees squaring off for the fin...
HR2 - Ted Johnson's Defensive Gameplan for the Patriots
12 Sep 2025
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HR2 - In today's Three Point Stance: Andy thinks it's time to put up or shut up for Pop Douglas after a season debut saw him end with -2 receiving ya...
HR3 - The Rob Bradford Power Hour
12 Sep 2025
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HR3 - The guys kick off a Bradfo Power Hour as WEEI.com and Baseball Isn't Boring's Rob Bradford ahead of tonight's Red Sox - Yankees matchup. Bradfo ...
HR4 - Recapping the day's best stories & Our picks of the week
12 Sep 2025
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HR4 - In today's edition of The Drive: Mike Vrabel meets with the media ahead of the Pats heading to Miami, while Josh McDaniels and Mike Giardi joine...
Pick Six: WEEI Afternoons predicts Week 2 of the NFL
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy, Ted, Fitzy, Brian, Stiz, and Ted predict how NFL Week 2 will go in Pick 6
The Drive: Vrabel, McDaniels, and Giardi preview Patriots @ Dolphins
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - In today's edition of The Drive: Mike Vrabel meets with the media ahead of the Pats heading to Miami, while Josh McDaniels and Mike Giardi j...
Is this a season defining series for the Red Sox?
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy, Fitzy, and Ted look ahead to the Red Sox key series as Fenway against the Yankees. Andy thinks this is a season defining series for th...
The Red Sox have a hole in their rotation | Rob Bradford joins the show
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - The guys kick off a Bradfo Power Hour as WEEI.com and Baseball Isn't Boring's Rob Bradford ahead of tonight's Red Sox - Yankees matchup. Bra...
Three Point Stance: Patriots fans shouldn't lose hope
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - In today's Three Point Stance: Andy thinks it's time to put up or shut up for Pop Douglas after a season debut saw him end with -2 receiving...
What has taken Christian Gonzalez so long to get back? Mike Giardi joins the show
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy, Ted and Fitzy are joined by Boston Sports Journal's Mike Giardi ahead of the Patriots week two matchup in Miami. Why has Christian Gon...
A pair of key injuries strike Patriots defense
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy and Fitzy react to the Patriots latest injury report which rules star corner Christian Gonzalez out for the second consecutive week alo...
Patriots Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels joins the show
12 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy and Fitzy are joined by Patriots Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels on a Patriots Friday ahead of the Pats Week 2 matchup in Miami. M...
9/11/25 Full Show - Is Drake Maye the guy for the Patriots moving forward?
11 Sep 2025
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HR 1 - Do we trust Josh McDaniels' comments on Drake Maye's preparedness? HR 2 - Three-Point Stance | Adam Schefter joins HR 3 - Expectations for Patr...
HR 1 - Do we trust Josh McDaniels' comments on Drake Maye's preparedness?
11 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy react to Josh McDaniels saying there is not too much on Drake Maye's plate. When will Christian Gonzalez make his season debut? Did the...
HR 2 - Three-Point Stance | Adam Schefter joins
11 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted give their Three-Point Stance takes of the day. Adam Schefter knows that there is an adjustment period for Drake Maye as he gets ...
HR 3 - Expectations for Patriots vs. Dolphins | Tom E. Curran joins
11 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted break down what needs to happen for the Patriots to earn their first victory of the season in Miami. Tom E. Curran thinks it is a...
HR 4 - The Drive | Tom Brady speaks on the modern day NFL Quarterback
11 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted revisit the hottest topics from earlier in the show. Callers give their takes on expectations for Drake Maye and the Patriots.
Callers share their expectations on Drake Maye
11 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted respond to callers giving their takes on what they want to see from Drake Maye. Are we sure he is the guy for the Patriots moving...
The Drive - Adam Schefter says Drake Maye has "it"
11 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted revisit stories from earlier in the show. Josh McDaniels says Drake Maye is the guy, Stefon Diggs speaks on what he can improve o...
Tom E. Curran joins the show - Patriots vs. Dolphins is a big game for both teams
11 Sep 2025
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Tom E. Curran thinks Drake Maye will be find, he just needs to mature. He also has Pop Douglas making a big impact in Miami, and thinks it's a bit sus...
What do the Patriots need to do to earn their first win of the season on Sunday?
11 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted break down what needs to happen for the Patriots to beat the Dolphins in Miami. What do we want to see from Drake Maye in week tw...
Ted Johnson reflects on NFL players voting to postpone games after 9/11
11 Sep 2025
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Ted Johnson gives his story on voting alongside other players to postpone NFL games after the tragedy of 9/11.
Adam Schefter joins the show - An adjustment process for Drake Maye is expected
11 Sep 2025
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ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter is unsure on Christian Gonzalez' injury timeline. Schefter talks about the uptick in fights at NFL games, the state of ...
When will Christian Gonzalez make his season debut?
11 Sep 2025
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Did the Patriots use Stefon Diggs enough in week one? What is your level of concern on the Patriots' defense heading into their matchup with the Dolph...
Josh McDaniels says Drake Maye does not have too much on his plate
11 Sep 2025
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Patriots Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels speaks on Drake Maye's development in year two. He is confident Maye will be able to adjust and improve ...
On The Beat: Mego with Chad Graff of The Athletic on Week 1 Concerns | '6 Rings & Football Things'
11 Sep 2025
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From '6 Rings & Football Things' (subscribe here): Mego catches up with Chad Graff of The Athletic at Gillette Stadium to discuss how concerning New E...
Mark Schlereth on Pats’ offensive balance, Drake Maye’s & Week 1 overreactions | '6 Rings & Football Things'
10 Sep 2025
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From '6 Rings & Football Things' (subscribe here): NFL insider Mark Schlereth breaks down New England’s loss, questions the load on Drake Maye, and ...
9/9/25 - Full Show
09 Sep 2025
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Hour 1 - Are the Patriots trying to do too much. Mark Schlereth joins the show. Hour 2 - Three Point stance. Ted Talk. Hour 3 - Maye v McCarthy. Bria...
HR 1 - Are the Pats trying to do too much
09 Sep 2025
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Hour 1 - Andy and FItzy continue to react to the Pats week 1 loss. Do the Pats need to think less and just play football.
HR 2 - Pats are too focused on their scheme
09 Sep 2025
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Hour 2 - The guys give their Three-Point stance for the day. Andy says that the Pats are too focused on their scheme and not just playing ball.
HR 3 - Drake Maye vs JJ McCarthy
09 Sep 2025
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Hour 3 - The guys are joined by Brian Hoyer, who tells everyone to relax the sky is not falling. They also get into a debate over Drake Maye and JJ Mc...
HR 4 - Alex Cora joins the show
09 Sep 2025
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Hour 4 - The guys are joined by Alex Cora ahead of tonight's Red Sox game. They ask him about Early's debut.
The Sox are throwing the young guys into the fire
09 Sep 2025
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The guys react to the Sox calling up another rookie pitcher to make his debut.
Ted critiques Andy for yesterday's Drake Maye question.
09 Sep 2025
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The Drive looks back at some of the best soundbites and stories of the day and Ted judges Andy for asking Drake Maye if he wants to win.
Brian Hoyer joins the show
09 Sep 2025
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The guys are joined by Brian Hoyer. He tells everyone that the sky is not falling down for the Patriots.
Drake Maye's head is spinning
09 Sep 2025
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The guys continue to react to the Pats loss and struggle to find a few positives from the game and Andy says that Drake Maye's head must be spinning.
Ted Talk: Pats still play sloppy football
09 Sep 2025
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Ted Johnson breaks down every aspect of the Patriots game in this weeks Ted Talk
Three Point Stance: Story is the MVP of the Sox
09 Sep 2025
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The guys all bring one sports take they have to the table to debate during today's three point stance.
Mark Schlereth joins the show
09 Sep 2025
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The guys are joined by Mark Schlereth to talk about the Patriots week one loss. He gives his opinion on if the Pats have put too much on Maye's plate....
Are the Patriots allowing Drake Maye to be himself
09 Sep 2025
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Andy and FItzy debate if the Patriots are trying to change Drake Maye too much and if it is a good thing that they are questioning themselves.
9/8/25 Full Show - Patriots fall to Raiders in their season opener, what went wrong?
08 Sep 2025
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HR 1 - Takeaways from Patriots vs. Raiders HR 2 - Three-Point Stance | Drake Maye and Marcus Jones join HR 3 - Are we sure Drake Maye is a winner? HR ...
HR 1 - Takeaways from Patriots vs. Raiders
08 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy debate what went wrong for the Patriots as they dropped their season opener. Is it time to reassess our expectations for Drake Maye? Ca...
HR 2 - Three-Point Stance | Drake Maye and Marcus Jones join
08 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Dan give their Three-Point Stance takes of the day. Drake Maye and Marcus Jones are both committed to winning. Both players break dow...
HR 3 - Are we sure Drake Maye is a winner?
08 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy debate whether or not Drake Maye is a winner, and if he will succeed with the Patriots moving forward. They also discuss what the defen...
HR 4 - The Drive | Pick Six recap
08 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy revisit their interview with Patriots Quarterback Drake Maye. They also recap their first Pick Six of the season, and their Patriots vs...
Pick Six - Week one recap
08 Sep 2025
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WEEI Afternoons recaps their rough start to the Pick Six after missing 5/6 spread picks from week one. They also look back on their Patriots vs. Raide...
What can we expect from the Patriots' defense going forward?
08 Sep 2025
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The Patriots' defense was a mixed bag in their season opener. They appeared to be a blitz-based unit, but is that the best plan for the team moving fo...
Is Drake Maye a winner?
08 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy react to Mike Vrabel's response when asked if Drake Maye was a winner. Did Vrabel and Josh McDaniels think Maye was further along in hi...
Marcus Jones joins the show - Focused on finding success in 2025
08 Sep 2025
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Patriots Cornerback Marcus Jones knows the defense needs to correct their pass defense which will lead to more success. The defense needs to hammer th...
Drake Maye joins the show - Committed to winning in New England
08 Sep 2025
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Patriots Quarterback Drake Maye says he and the team have to find ways to extend drives and improve the run game. He is continuing to get comfortable ...
Three-Point Stance - Is Derrick Henry underrated?
08 Sep 2025
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Hart thinks Derrick Henry is underrated, Fitzy thinks the Bills are the new Patriots, and Dan thinks Connor Wong is the unsung hero of the 2025 Red So...
Is it time to reassess our expectations on Drake Maye?
08 Sep 2025
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Was Drake Maye thinking too much yesterday? The run game was almost nonexistent for the Patriots in week one. Callers react to the loss.
Patriots fall to Raiders in season opener
08 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy react to what went wrong for the Patriots in the second half. Geno Smith carved up the defense, Vrabel and the coaching staff seemed to...
Patriots fall to Raiders in lackluster start to Vrabel Era | '6 Rings & Football Things'
08 Sep 2025
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From '6 Rings & Football Things' (subscribe here): Make no mistake about it, the Patriots laid an egg in their 2025 home opener and the debut of the M...
Best of WEEI Interviews: September 1 - September 5
07 Sep 2025
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The best interviews this week from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and WEEI Afternoons. Hear from Mike Vrabel, Alex Cora, Craig Breslow, Drake Maye...
Best of the Patriots on WEEI: Stefon Diggs drama and Bill Belichick bans Pats scouts
06 Sep 2025
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The best Patriots conversations leading up to Week 1 from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and WEEI Afternoons. Tom E. Curran joins WEEI Afternoons ...
Best of the Red Sox on WEEI: How can they replace Roman Anthony?
06 Sep 2025
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The best Red Sox conversations of the week from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and WEEI Afternoons. Alex Cora tells us that Roman Anthony could mi...
9/5/25 - Full Show
05 Sep 2025
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HR 1 - Jeremy Springer joins | Patriots vs. Raiders preview HR 2 - Three-Point Stance | Mike Giardi joins HR 3 - 2025 Patriots superlatives prediction...
HR 1 - Jeremy Springer joins | Patriots vs. Raiders preview
05 Sep 2025
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Patriots Special Teams Coordinator loves Mike Vrabel's communication, and is excited to coach Andres Borregales and Brendan Schooler. Hart and Fitzy r...
HR 2 - Three-Point Stance | Mike Giardi joins
05 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted present their Three-Point Stance takes of the day. Mike Giardi explains what he is most excited about for the Patriots in 2025. H...
HR 3 - 2025 Patriots superlatives predictions | Rob Bradford joins
05 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted preview the 2025 Patriots season and list their picks for superlative winners. Rob Bradford thinks Payton Tolle is now a necessit...
HR 4 - The Drive | Pick Six
05 Sep 2025
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How confident are you in the Patriots heading into week one? The WEEI Afternoons crew gives six moneylines to bet on for week one of the NFL season
Pick Six - WEEI Afternoons' moneyline picks for week one
05 Sep 2025
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The WEEI Afternoon crew give you six different moneylines they would bet on for week one of the NFL season. They also give their score picks for Patri...
The Drive - How confident are you in the Patriots heading into week one?
05 Sep 2025
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Jeremy Springer discusses how the Patriots special teams unit is preparing for the Raiders and the season as a whole. Mike Giardi gives his pick for P...
Rob Bradford joins the show - Payton Tolle is now a necessity for the Red Sox rotation
05 Sep 2025
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Host of Baseball isn't Boring Rob Bradford knows everyone has to be better for the Red Sox in Roman Anthony's absence. He thinks it is a long shot tha...
2025 Patriots season preview
05 Sep 2025
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Hart, Fitzy, and Ted give their picks for Patriots superlatives as the team gets set for their week one matchup with the Raiders. What is the biggest ...
Mike Giardi joins the show - Stefon Diggs was smart to address the media
05 Sep 2025
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Mike Giardi discusses what he likes most about the Patriots heading into week one. He thinks Josh McDaniels will provide more answers for Drake Maye i...
Three-Point Stance - Jeremy Swayman needs bounce back next season
05 Sep 2025
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Hart thinks Jeremy Swayman needs to talk less and focus on bouncing back in 2025. Fitzy thinks Rhamondre Stevenson will have a big impact against the ...
Thursday Night Football recap
05 Sep 2025
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Hart and Fitzy preview Patriots vs. Raiders and recap last night's game. Jalen Carter was ejected for spitting on Dak Prescott, what are our takeaways...
Jeremy Springer joins the show - Mike Vrabel is a great communicator
05 Sep 2025
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Patriots Special Teams Coordinator Jeremy Springer joins WEEI Afternoons on a Patriots Friday. Springer is excited for week one to get underway. He di...
Why the Patriots can make it back to the postseason | '6 Rings & Football Things'
05 Sep 2025
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From '6 Rings & Football Things' (subscribe here): Fitzy, Meghan Ottolini, Jon Lyons, and Tom Carroll discuss why the Patriots can make it back to the...
9/4/25 - Full Show
04 Sep 2025
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The full WEEI Afternoons Show from 9/4/25
HR1 - Did the Red Sox outsmart themselves with bullpen game?
04 Sep 2025
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HR1 - The guys kick off today's show with something they briefly touched on at the end of yesterday's, Stefon Diggs addressing multiple media members ...
HR2 - The Red Sox should move on from Jordan Hicks for good
04 Sep 2025
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HR2 - In today's Three Point Stance: Andy is ready for the Red Sox to move on from reliever Jordan Hicks for good, Ted takes yet another victory lap ...
HR3 - NFL Season Predictions
04 Sep 2025
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HR3 - The guys spend the third hour of today's show giving their NFL Season Predictions. Hear Andy, Fitzy, and Ted give their picks for every division...
HR4 - Bill Belichick and UNC have Patriots scouts banned
04 Sep 2025
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HR4 - Today in "The Drive" Phil Perry's “pain in the posterior” comment, Stefon Diggs answer on being an a-hole, Phil Perry on his apology to Stef...
A new development in the Bill Belichick-Patriots saga
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy, Fitzy and Ted react to the latest chapter in the Bill Belichick-Patriots drama in the post-dynasty era. With multiple reporters report...
The Drive: Diggs drama dominates the day
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Today in "The Drive" Phil Perry's “pain in the posterior” comment, Stefon Diggs answer on being an a-hole, Phil Perry on his apology to ...
Who will be the first NFL coach fired? | NFL Predictions
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - The guys wrap up their NFL prediction hour with some "anti-superlatives" inclduing who will be the first QB benched, first coach fired, and ...
The guys give their Super Bowl Winner | NFL Previews
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy, Fitzy, and Ted kick off their NFL season prediction hour giving their division winners and Super Bowl predictions
Tom E. Curran joins the show amid Stefon Diggs drama
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - Andy, Ted and Fitzy are joined by NBC Sports Boston just a day after he was named in Stefon Diggs media "apology". Tom addresses the name dr...
Three Point Stance: Patriots vs Raiders will be decided in the trenches
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - In today's Three Point Stance: Andy is ready for the Red Sox to move on from reliever Jordan Hicks for good, Ted takes yet another victory l...
Breaking down Mike Vrabel’s update on Christian Gonzalez with MassLive's Mark Daniels | '6 Rings & Football Things'
04 Sep 2025
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From '6 Rings & Football Things' (subscribe here): Meghan Ottolini is joined by MassLive's Mark Daniels to discuss Mike Vrabel's update on Chris...
Was last night a sign of what's to come for the Sox?
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - The guys lament last night's Red Sox loss to fall to 0-1 in the post Roman Anthony injury era. Is this game a sign of things to come for the...
What's your confidence level in Stefon Diggs?
04 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - The guys kick off today's show with something they briefly touched on at the end of yesterday's, Stefon Diggs addressing multiple media memb...
9/3/25 - Full Show
03 Sep 2025
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The full WEEI Afternoon Show with Andy Hart, Nick "Fitzy" Stevens, and Ted Johnson from September 3, 2025
HR1 - Can the Red Sox survive without Roman Anthony?
03 Sep 2025
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HR1 - Andy, Fitzy, and Ted are joined by Red Sox Manager Alex Cora ahead of the series finale against the Guardians. Cora provides an update on Red So...
HR2 - Robert Kraft pledges to build Belichick statue
03 Sep 2025
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HR2 - In today's Three Point Stance: Ted Johnson takes another victory lap over Bill Belichick's disastrous college football debut, Fitzy thinks that...
HR3 - Why is the national media so bullish on the Patriots?
03 Sep 2025
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HR3 - Andy, Ted, and Fitzy react to Adam Schefter saying he would not be surprised to see the Patriots take a massive leap and be a playoff team in 20...
HR4 - How will the Red Sox deploy their starters down the stretch?
03 Sep 2025
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HR4 - In today's edition of The Drive: Andy, Fitzy, and Dan recap the hottest news stories of the day across the sports world. Including Alex Cora an...
Odds & Ends: Stefon Diggs 'apologizes' to the media
03 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - The guys wrap up today's show discussing a clip from Stefon Diggs' media availability where he apologizes to the media for his behavior this...
The Drive: Recapping the day that was in Boston Sports
03 Sep 2025
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SEGMENT - In today's edition of The Drive: Andy, Fitzy, and Dan recap the hottest news stories of the day across the sports world. Including Alex Cora...