Chapter 1: Why is the global financial system cracking?
If nobody's going to buy our crazy government debt, then we have to monetize it ourselves. Literally, the only solution is to print money and to fill in that gap. The outlet valve is the currency, so the currency gets debased. I think we're intentionally pulling back from the U.S. and the dollar being the global reserve asset.
I wouldn't get too excited about the price of Bitcoin until you start seeing signs that the U.S. economy is starting to take off again. Or if we have some really good news come out of, like, say, Congress, I think it could quickly go to 150 or 200K if that happens. Is this an age of abundance or is it like another Great Depression?
Deflation is incompatible with the credit based fiat monetary system.
Chapter 2: How does monetizing debt affect inflation?
If it takes hold and continues, I actually think that's the end of that government's fiat currency. At the other side of that, the world is priced in Bitcoin. Dr. Jeff Ross, I think the big question that everyone has for you right now is, is Dr. Bear back? So we're just getting right into it, huh? We're kicking off. So let me just start right. So I'm just going to come right out with it, right?
The last clickbait title for the last time we got together was Bitcoin to $475,000, right? So let me acknowledge that I was wrong, okay? So everybody who's listening, wrong. Why was I wrong? I think that everybody talks about Bitcoin moving according to what global liquidity is doing.
but it also is very strongly correlated to what the global economy is doing and especially what the US economy is doing. What I really did not expect to happen in 2025 was that the US economy would not get out of a recession. The manufacturing sector in the US has been literally in a recession since 2022.
Chapter 3: What signals the end of the easy-money era?
It spiked briefly, the ISM manufacturing PMI briefly spiked above 50. So basically it went from contraction to expansion briefly, I think in late 2024, early 2025, basically right after Trump was nominated. Um, but then of course they came out with Doge and then followed that with tariff stuff. Uh, and that has just beaten down the economy.
So besides that little blip where it, where it went above 50, um, it's been in a contraction or another word for that as a recession since the end of 2022.
did not expect that at all i thought that the manufacturing economy would be just booming by now and that we'd actually be peaking and rolling over at this point so people ask i see people still asking this is the four-year cycle dead and i'm like of course it's dead it's it's it's of course it is like it's not even a question about it like it died because the economy is not in this four-year cycle anymore so the question is is what is going to happen going forward
And that's stuff we can probably talk about. But I think things look very good for a reversal of fortune. So just the way that 2025 surprised to the downside for the U.S. economy, which is still in a contraction, and for Bitcoin, which is bearish, very strongly bearish right now. Although I think it's close to a bottom. I think it's at or near a bottom at these levels.
I think 2026 is looking good. And I think that's because the one big beautiful bill act
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Chapter 4: How is Japan's bond yield shock impacting global markets?
will finally basically start taking effect. I think the accounting rules that are going to be in place starting in 2026 are going to start taking an effect. And I think people shouldn't underestimate how strong that impact will be. So I've basically, yes, I'm bearish currently. And I flipped to now being instead of bearish for 2026, I'm actually quite bullish and constructive on 2026.
With one more caveat, and then I'll stop. is that I think I wouldn't get too excited about the price of Bitcoin until you start seeing signs that the U S economy is starting to take off again. So I closely watch the ISM manufacturing PMI, and it's still, the latest thing just came out recently and new orders are actually down again.
So still very contractionary, still in a recession, basically until you see new orders start to peak up above 50 and then rise higher. And then finally the, the, ISM manufacturing, PMI itself, start to rise above 50 to 55 and head towards 60. That will be the point that we'll start seeing Bitcoin making tremendous moves higher. But until then, I would definitely temper expectations.
I mean, I definitely don't hold the price prediction against you, Jeff. It's one of those years where I don't think anyone called this. I don't know anyone who was saying 2025 was going to be a down year. I remember when we spoke back in June, I think you called that Bitcoin was going to go to 120 by the end of summer, which it did.
And then obviously, I think you were saying 475 by Q1 next year, possibly, or first half of next year, at least.
again things change that's off the tables now i think everyone would probably agree with that but my question i want to get into is you talk of recession because in macro circles this is been a kind of debated thing for quite a while now there's been people saying we're in sort of a silent depression or we're entering recession but you think we've actually been in one for the last couple years
Yeah, it just depends where you look. And I think even more now. So first of all, what I like to tell people, too, is we are not in a free market economy. This is not free market capitalism in the US or Europe or basically anywhere in the world. People kind of, you know, hack on China for being this communist country. We are as centrally controlled and commanded as China is here in the US.
So what do I mean by that? I mean that the US government has for many, many years, not just with the current administration, but especially with the current administration, is picking winners and it's picking losers. Why does that matter? Because when you modify regulations and taxes and you funnel fiscal stimulus into certain sectors, you're picking winners.
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Chapter 5: What role does liquidity play in Bitcoin's price movements?
Those sectors are going to do well. Sectors that are not included are not going to do well. And so basically the manufacturing sector has been left for dead in the United States for about, 30 years, 25 to 30 years or so.
And so we've just seen an absolute gutting of the middle class and an absolute gutting of manufacturing capabilities in the US and also throughout Europe, as you know, and I know you've discussed with lots of your guests. I think that's going to change, but it takes time for this to change. And we discussed this the last time we were together. It takes time. It doesn't just happen.
You don't just suddenly start manufacturing somewhere, right? You have to build the equipment. You have to build the buildings. You have to get the electrical grid in place in order to do all this. This costs a lot of money and it takes a lot of time. I think we're finally going to start seeing the effects of this happen in 2026. It has implications across the investing spectrum.
As a macro hedge fund manager, I'm focused on like picking these things out and saying, okay, who will the winners be six to 12 months from now? Where is the regulation and the taxation and the fiscal stimulus being directed and where is it not? And so I think if you look that way, you can actually see who will be the winners kind of six to 12 months into the future.
We had a sneak peek of that in 2025 because markets look ahead. But I think those trends are going to really accelerate as we head into 2026. So Trump obviously made a big deal about bringing back manufacturing to the US. Like you say, that takes some time.
But why would all the capital that's being funneled into different locations, like you say, them picking winners and picking losers, why has that money not been going into manufacturing while it's been in this kind of contraction recession type environment? So basically it's because we've been waiting for 2026 to start.
So some started with the new year, fiscal new year, which was in October for the US, but we don't see the tax effects take, the tax breaks basically to take effect until 2026. So what does that mean? So most people have heard about the depreciation rule. You can do 100% depreciation. I'm not an accountant, but here's what I do know about that.
So if you are gonna build a data center or a manufacturing center and buy a bunch of equipment, Or if you're a Bitcoin miner and you're going to buy a crazy amount of ASICs and plug them in, you're going to wait until January of 2026 to do that. Why? Because then you can do 100% depreciation right away, right off the bat in 2026.
And the businesses, they start having effects from their taxation as early as January 15th. So that's kind of the first little milestone date for them. What that means is, say a Bitcoin miner who bought a lot of ASICs can depreciate 100%. That moves directly to their cash flows and it lowers their taxes by that amount. So they pay less taxes.
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Chapter 6: How is the U.S. moving away from the dollar as a reserve asset?
There are some Bitcoin miners that I think will be paying close to zero taxes for 2026 and probably 2027 and probably roll forward all the way into 2028 because of this depreciation rule. Even though it's a little accounting gimmick, it means they have higher operational cash flows, which means they can actually use that extra cash flow to buy Bitcoin with.
And so basically, miners that have been waiting to, say, buy Bitcoin, they're going to wait for this rule to take effect in 2026. And then I think what that means is they're going to suddenly free up a ton of cash flow on their statements, on their balance sheets, and they're going to start buying Bitcoin in size. And it's going to be very beneficial. That's just Bitcoin miners.
The manufacturing sector itself is also going to be doing that. And we're going to see the effects. And that's what Scott Besson has been hinting at. He's like, hey, I'm also the head of the IRS, as it turns out. And I'm telling you, you're going to see cash flow starting to move in huge amounts to the manufacturing sector, to the people basically that we're favoring.
If you're in one of these sectors and you're building your business aggressively, you will be rewarded for that. And I think people are underestimating the effects that this is going to have as we head into 2026. So you think hash rate is going to go absolutely exponential in 2026 then?
Because if it's essentially, you know, a full tax write-off to buy Bitcoin miners, then I'd expect that to be, you know, an insane year for Bitcoin mining. It's like the hardest business in the world just got harder. Right, right. And so with that, right, the difficulty adjustment will also get much harder. So that's the fun part about Bitcoin. If you're a miner, it's a dog-eat-dog business.
It's really tough, as we both know. But I think that people need to take this seriously. This is really going to have a significant effect on basically the muscle of America, like bringing manufacturing back to America. I think we're finally going to see the effects. And I would not also underestimate...
the desire for the Trump administration and with Besant at the helm financially, I look at Trump as like the CEO now of America and Besant is the CFO and they kind of work in tandem. And I would not underestimate the desire of those two to goose the economy before midterm elections.
And so I think we're going to be, have a smoking hot economy by kind of second quarter, somewhere in their second, third quarter of 2026. And that bodes well for Bitcoin coming full circle. With fiat money constantly debasing, wealth preservation isn't optional.
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Chapter 7: What does the 2026 inflection point mean for Bitcoin and manufacturing?
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So this obviously isn't like anything to do with the Fed or the Treasury or money printing, but it's massive amounts of...
money from public and private companies going into the economy like does that have any impact on inflation and and things like that so somebody has to pay for this right so so we know that this fiscal stimulus as lynn alden says nothing stops a strain and i agree with her and i think that that's actually going to continue and probably accelerate where where the us runs massive fiscal deficits when we say that's the if running massive fiscal deficit deficits
That's sort of a fancy term for basically the Congress in the US is spending more money than it has. So it's borrowing money to spend money. And the way it borrows money is by creating treasuries. And the way that the current treasury secretary, Besantin Yellen before him, liked to do that is by issuing tons of T-bills.
So when the government wants to spend money, the treasury issues a crazy amount of T-bills. Right now, most of those T-bills are being held in money market funds. Across America, I think the last time I checked, there's about $7.6 trillion held in money market funds right now.
As the T-bill yield comes down because the federal funds rate is coming down, that will be less and less desirable for boomers to park their cash in, right? So they've been super happy at 5% yields. They're a little less happy at 4.5% to 4% yields. Now that the Fed funds rate is even lower, now those yields are going to go down to kind of 3.75%, 3.5%.
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Chapter 8: What should investors expect in the next economic cycle?
It still is QE. It's still the Fed buying the debt of the government, which is the Congress spending more money than it has. And it's being issued by the treasury. So. Yes, that's bullish for risk assets. Yes, that is inflationary, but it will be selectively inflationary, I think, as throughout 2026 and 2027.
Is it even more inflationary than normal QE on the 30-year bonds because it's more money-like? So not really. I think what matters more is how much is Congress spending? How much is the monetary supply expanding faster than underlying economic growth? So like in an ideal situation, the monetary supply would expand at about the same rate as the economy.
If you have a fiat money system, that would be a responsible fiat management system. But what they're doing is they're expanding the monetary base faster than the underlying economy is growing basically. And when you get that, you get inflation, but you don't always see it just in prices. And we saw that throughout the 2010s, right? We didn't have, the CPI wasn't going,
wild back in the 2010s in the US, but assets were ripping. And so what happens is it's where is that money going? If you're taking payments, and now Trump is talking about the warrior check or whatever, 1776, two soldiers, that's great. They're talking about other forms of basically entitlements. Whenever you just directly give money to people in their checking account, that is inflationary.
But if you take this money, say, and put it into things like manufacturing sector or directly into ai or semiconductors or military companies you know or rare earth materials pick your winner that they're they're choosing for the next year or so i would expect because they're directing the fire hose in in those areas those things will increase in price relative to the rest of the economy.
So it's not necessarily inflationary in terms of price terms, in terms of like soup and food going up or real estate going up, but it will cause the price to go up and the winners that they're choosing. So they're choosing AI as one of the winners in this. And this might be a bit too tinfoil hat, but Scott Besson is a really smart man.
He knows that the economy long-term is in a really tricky spot. And one of the questions I've had for a while is, are they choosing AI as a winner because they want to get the productivity boom from AI to save the economy longer term? Definitely. That's one of them. Also for military reasons. I think what I appreciate about this administration is
Even though they don't talk about this publicly, I think they have, and I side with Luke Grohman in this way, is I think they have sized themselves up to China and realized we can't win in a war against China. We probably can't even win in a war against Russia, even though we tend to think of them as they don't have quite the asset base that we have.
I think that looking at the geopolitical world order, and if we want to get into this, I actually really enjoy talking about this kind of stuff because I think the world order is changing. I think we have reached the end of American imperialism and they're pulling back from, you know, world domination and controlling all of the world's choke points and military bases everywhere.
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