What Now? with Trevor Noah
UnitedHealthcare Assassin: Italians Are Black Again?
Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:00:00 +0000
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In the wake of the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO, the internet is awash with hot takes on health insurance and hot memes of everyone’s favorite assassin-bae. The facts may still be developing, but that’s not stopping Trevor, Christiana, and Josh from sharing their “sweeping judgements” on the matter. Is Luigi Mangione guilty? Not guilty? Hot guilty?
Chapter 1: What is the premise of the podcast?
Okay, I'm going to start this episode of the podcast with a disclaimer. There's a thing I do with my friends, and I have called it sweeping judgments. All of these opinions are our opinions. Everything we say is ridiculous. None of it needs to make sense. If you've come here for facts, this is not the podcast for you. This is not the episode for you. There might also be jokes.
If you don't like jokes, I'm warning you now. Get your kid to take you out of the room because shit might go down. This is What Now? with Trevor Noah. Welcome to Sweeping Judgments. Josh, I'm just going to jump straight into it. Okay. As a fellow gray hoodie wearer, you knew this guy was going to shoot the guy, didn't you? It's something... Why are you still wearing the hoodie, by the way?
Okay, look. This is how I actually dress. So, when he... When he popped up, can I tell you one thing real quick about the whole thing, before we knew who he was or anything? When I saw that dude stand up and then, like, get the gun ready, everything, I was so thankful to see white hands. Oh, yeah, it was over for you. Oh, dude.
It was over for you. Then, then, CBS— Do you know how many videos have you wearing that exact outfit with that exact backpack? Talking about CEOs.
And so then— Then CBS had the unmitigated nerve to say a light-skinned man.
Did you?
Yeah, I noticed that shit.
I thought I was the only one. Do you want to know my conspiracy? What's your conspiracy? Italians are black again.
No.
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Chapter 2: Who is Luigi Mangione and why is he in the news?
Yes.
So if he had shot... A worker in McDonald's, for instance.
The person who snitched on him.
Right. We'd be like, that's not cool. But he literally, like, shot up.
Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? To use comedy terms, yeah.
He punched up and not down. R.I.P. to that man, by the way. You know, father, family man. You know, we're dehumanizing CEOs right now. But people don't care about CEOs.
Yeah, well, I would never dehumanize a CEO. No. Bad for business. But we'll get into this later. But I think part of the conversation is going to be us discussing who gets to be the killer. Do you know what I mean? But let's first start with the most recent news. He gets caught at a McDonald's. I don't know about you, but everywhere I went, people seemed to be on this guy's side.
I'm shocked that somebody snitched on him.
So I'll throw two things out there, right? First one is this is not in defense of this person who did the telling. I'm just telling you what happened, right? In my experience, when you work at a job like that and somebody crazy come in... You just want them out by any means necessary. And so I think there is a part of you working there being like, look, I don't know. He might think I'm the CEO.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the media's portrayal of the suspect?
That's what I mean.
Everyone else, it was like, it's Wednesday.
Whereas when you read all these other stories where they'll say, oh, this person had an issue. They were bullied at school. You're like, yeah, but they shot all the kids. They didn't just shoot the kid who was the main bully. They shot all the kids. And this guy or whoever actually did it, this person went, shot the person,
And then do you see in the video, there's the lady drinking her coffee or she's drinking something in the video and the shooting happens and then she just like runs off. She's also like, oh, this has nothing to do with me. You know what I mean? She doesn't put her hands up. She doesn't start screaming. She just like goes like, well, clearly...
These two people have some sort of disagreement and it is not about me. I'm going to move.
I thought it was like a lover, you know, where my mind goes.
What?
I thought it was like a jilted lover and he was coming back to get his revenge.
You thought a CEO of a healthcare company getting shot was about, what books are you reading?
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Chapter 4: How does the healthcare system influence public perception?
No, I just think that's a funny workout Jordan Peterson pipeline.
He's very ripped, very handsome. I won't dwell on that too much, but that is informing why some people are treating him this way. But I think they spoke about him having these... I actually argue, before you move on. Yeah.
I actually think it's the other way around. I think, you know, sort of in the same world that Josh is in, I think we might be looking at a lot of this backward, right? We're going, oh, because he's hot... People are treating him differently because he's good looking. People are treated because he's white. People are treated because he's this, because I think it's literally the other way around.
I think because he went after somebody who represented something that everyone considers a deep enemy. And I mean a deep enemy because they, in the most extreme cases, they've lost family members because of this.
Yeah.
Or they themselves are in like chronic pain and cannot get help because of this system. And this is a company that denies one in five claims. I think because of that, people are able to see things. So like if, yes, obviously there were people who would always think he's good looking because he's good looking maybe.
But I think more people can see his good lookingness because he did a thing that they approve of.
Trevor, I'm telling you as a woman, he is stadiums above the average man.
This is a beautiful man.
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Chapter 5: What societal issues does the podcast address through humor?
So you think the one, no?
No, I don't think one's enough because I don't think that health insurance companies are scared enough. And there's like trillions on the line. Like it's a lot of money, right? And they can hire security and do all of these things. But if it becomes a thing of like, you know how Robin Hood would like steal from the rich and give to the poor.
And it's like there's people out there who are disgruntled and they shoot people high up at health insurance companies. It completely changed how they operate. But I don't think one's enough. Not that I'm trying to say people should do more. Please.
Everything, disclaimer, disclaimer.
I don't want that smoke. But I just don't think one's enough. But I think if there's copycats, it's game over.
Yeah. I also think more would be bad because a lot of people don't have aim.
Yeah. That's why people thought he was a professional assassin.
No, but he got up really close. People forget that. He got up really, really close.
Yeah. Like, there are people who say the whole sniping from far away thing is, like, a thing in the movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, like, not going to work.
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Chapter 6: Is there a moral justification for the actions of the shooter?
But, you know, a long time, like 20 years, 30 years. Wow. That's your life. No, it's not.
That's your life.
He is like a hot 22.
That's your life.
He's going to come out of me in his 40s. I'm just going to put it out there. He'll be in his George Clooney era by the time he comes out. No, I'm just saying.
Norway and Sweden don't even do a life sentence as 20.
I can't say the sentence because I don't, you know, I can't say the sentence. I think he should, because also he should like kind of sit down and think about what he wants to do next.
I think he did when he was carving the bullets. No, but you know.
And then probation. And not like punitive probation. Probation with a view of like, you can now contribute something to society.
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