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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Waitley on SEN. We finish Wednesday with some nerdy stats. Peter Blucher is our great partner in this. Hello there, Blutch.
Gerard, how are you? I'm well. We're doing footies pensioners. We are the super old blokes. I had a major milestone birthday recently, so I'm going out in sympathy.
The 35 pluses.
Chapter 2: What unique statistics about players over 35 are discussed?
How many have reached games plus 35 years of age?
Well, out of 13,400 in total, only 127. have played beyond the age of 35. And four of them played for two clubs post that age. So it's a pretty unique group.
Give us the four notables to start with.
Well, the four double-ups. Sid Barker, after whom the North Best and Fairest medal is known, he played after 35 for North and also for Essendon when he was captain coach. John Rantel, South Melbourne and Fitzroy. And more recently, two of the old-timers, Paul Salmon, and Todd Goldstein, a pretty special company.
Top 10 oldies, but goodies.
We'll get to number one is Vic Cumberland from St Kilda in 1920. He was 43, and we'll get to him later on. Number two, it's never had much in the way of publicity, but the second oldest player of all time was Dustin Fletcher, the only other one to hit 40. Then we've got a couple of old-timers. Jack Leith at Melbourne was 39. Sid Barker was 39. Jim Flynn... At Carlton, Premiership Captain was 39.
Ted Rowell, Premiership Player at Collingwood was 39. Sean Burgoyne, more recent times, 38. Craig Bradley was 38. Scott Tenelbury's worked his way up to 9th all time. He's at 38 and going strong. And rounding out the top 10 is Collingwood Premiership Player from the early 1900s, Les Hughes. And among four others at 38 is Brent Harvey.
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Chapter 3: Who are the notable players that played beyond age 35?
How many current players do we have who are 35 plus?
Well, this is a distinguished group, of course. Pendlebury, Dane Zorko is 37, second oldest. Patrick Dangerfield, 36. Taylor Walker, 36. Jeremy Howe, 35, and only nine days from hitting 36. Dane Rampey, Reece Stanley, still side bottom at 35, broke into the top 100 last week. Mason Cox is 109th all-time and will hit the top 100 if they were to play grand final day for you.
And Mark Blitzer completes the 35 pluses.
of them currently so unsurprisingly given the advancements in sports science and medicine so we've got 23 in the 2020s and that is by far and away the best by decade for the 30 pluses the 2000s 10 the 2020s 10 the 2020s 2010s 10 the 2020s 23 I don't want to run out of time without hearing the Vic Cumberland story here the oldest player of all time tell us about him Find the right page, man.
This is just an extraordinary story. Born 4th of July, 1877, he played a total of 176 games and divided at 21, played his last game at 43. So he was longer a player than not. the youngest son of Peregrine and Lillian Cumberland from Toorak. They're all from Toorak, aren't they?
It was a 182-centimetre running sort of ruckman, good mark, long place kick specialist, known for his ability to take the ball out of the ruck with a hand pass. Initially, he played in Tasmania. Then he had the first of five stints in the AFL. First one at Melbourne, he played 50 games and won a flag in 1900. In early 1902, he was cleared to WA, but there's no record of him playing there.
He did play in the Metropolitan Junior League of Melbourne, winning the flag against Brighton with the Old Collegians.
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Chapter 4: What are the top 10 oldest players in footy history?
In 1903, he went to St Kilda for the first of four times. Played 26 games in two years. Took them from Woodenspooners without a win in 02. They finished fifth in 03. Then he played, just for something completely different, went to the Auckland Imperials in 05-06. In 06, in 07 and 08, back at St Kilda for the second time, 28 more games, member of their first final side in 1907.
Then he hadn't been to South Australia, so bang, he had three years at Sturt in the Sandville where he won a McGarry medal in 1911, was a member of the South Australian side and won a national title. 1912, back at St Kilda. Of course, that's what you do. 62 games, was a standout in their first grand final loss to Fitzroy in that time, so they're getting better every time he goes back.
Then, of course, World War I came along. He enlisted in January 1916 in Barclay, France, the following month. He was part of the 29th Battalion and was wounded three times fighting in France, returned to Australia in November 19. And so in 1920, of course, he goes back to St Kilda for a fourth time, and there he played 10 games.
So that's 176 in total, seven finals, a premiership, a grand final loss, played in five different jumper numbers in the Kildare in a year at a period where they just changed him every year, and died not just an ordinary old death. Of course, this guy didn't do anything ordinary. He was involved in an accident when he was riding his motorbike at Burntree Gully. in Victoria and hit a cow.
Died in hospital several months later, aged 50. He squeezed a third into his 50 years in Nigeria. Did he ever?
Hailed from Tasmania, played for Melbourne and St Kilda, won a premiership for Old Collegians against Brighton, played in Auckland and at Sturt, won a McGarry medal there, served in France in World War I and is our oldest ever player. The remarkable story of Vic Cumberland. I'm just going to read the oldest at your club, right? Taylor Walker at Adelaide. Dane Zorko at Brisbane.
Jim Flynn at Carlton. Ted Rowell at Collingwood. Dustin Fletcher at Essendon. Charlie Norris at Fitzroy. Takes us back to 1918. David Mundy at Fremantle. Ted Rankin at Geelong, 1897. Levi Casbolt at the Suns. James McDonald at the Giants. Sean Burgoyne at Hawthorne. Jack Leith at Melbourne. That's 1912.
Sid Barker at North Melbourne, Travis Boak at Port Adelaide, David Cloak at Richmond, who's 51 days older than Kevin Bartlett. Vic Cumberland. Yeah, Vic Cumberland at St Kilda. Bill Fraser, 1904, at South Melbourne. Elby Morrison, 1946, the Bulldogs, and Shannon Hearn at West Coast. Awesome list of footies, pensioners, Bluch. Thank you. Good man. Have a good break, mate. Good on you.
We'll talk in a couple of weeks' time.
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Chapter 5: How many current players are 35 years or older?
Peter Blucher with his nerdy stats. Every Wednesday. Tidy up. Set you up for Midday Madness next.