Wise Men Say

REACTION: Sunderland 2 Brentford 1

30 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How about that then? Super Sub Isidor off the bench again to score, this time with a a late, late winner. Stephen had a quick catchup with Nick Barnes...

PREVIEW: Brentford (H)

28 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Jimmy Reay as we look ahead to the visit of Brentford on Saturday. There's a chat with Billy from the Beesotted Brentford ...

Monday Show: Burnley 2-0 Sunderland

25 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth Barker and Eleanor McCabe discuss the defeat at Burnley, the visit of Huddersifeld and there's another quizzer on the block. Hosted on Acast. S...

REACTION: Burnley 2-0 Sunderland

23 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Stephen Goldsmith and Jimmy Reay as Sunderland are brought crashing back down to earth with a 2-0 defeat away at Burnley. ...

PREVIEW: Burnley (A)

21 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Gareth Barker and Jimmy Reay as Sunderland look forward to their first away game of the season. There's Burnley input...

Monday Show: A Premier League Win, Next?

18 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How about that then? Premier League football has returned and Sunderland smashed West Ham 3-0 on the first game back. Stephen, Eleanor and Jonath...

REACTION: Sunderland 3-0 West Ham United

16 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

What a way to make our return to the Premier League! Stephen Goldsmith is joined by journalist Ian Murtagh on the full-time whistle, there's reaction ...

ALL-NEW PREVIEW SHOW: West Ham United (H)

14 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We are back in the Premier League and we bring you an all-new Preview Show that befits such a status, with bells and whistles, as we look ahead to our...

Sir Bob Murray Would Like Your Ear...

13 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

You may or may not be aware of the issues brought to light this week over the development of Sheepfolds, an area next to the ground. Sir Bob Murray wa...

Monday Show: A Win, a Defeat and A New Defender?

11 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Jonathan have chat about the two friendly results over the weekend. Did anyone stake a claim for a start, away from the 11 that won in Ger...

Monday Show: Chelsea View on Guiu and More Preseason Thoughts

04 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen, Eleanor and Jonathan share some preseason thoughts. We also checked in with Chris Barbour to get perspective on Marc Guiu who looks to be joi...

Stadium of Light Revamp: W/ Jimmy Montgomery, Nick Barnes, Phil Smith

01 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Eleanor went and had a look round the Stadium of Light, where a lot of money has been invested into giving it some much needed TLC. And wh...

Expert Opinion: New Keeper Robin Roefs with Sander Janssen

31 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sunderland are signing a keeper. Football reporter Sander Janssen from Voetbal International tells Stephen all about Robin Roefs. Hosted on Acast. See...

Xhaka Signs For Sunderland!

30 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Rick, Eleanor and Jon as we react to the news that Granit Xhaka has signed for Sunderland from Bayer Leverkusen. There'...

REACTION: Sunderland Lose at Hearts

26 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mick and new(ish) WMS podder Jonathan are in an Edinburgh pub.Does a defeat here mean anything? Does it? If any team deserve some bigger-picture think...

WMS Pre-Season: Chat (General)

16 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Richard Easterbrook and WMS debutant Jonathan Ellenor to discuss Sunderland's first pre-season friendly of 25-26 and to...

WMS w/ Transfer Expert Sacha Tavolieri

06 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Rick catch up with transfer guru Sacha Tavolieri to chat about Sunderland's movements in the European market, including the latest on Djor...

WMS CATCHUP: Signings and Links Everywhere

03 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen, Mick and Jim have a bit of a catchup on all of the recent activity. Sporting Directors, Assistant Coaches and players. Lots to chat about. Ho...

Bonus Pod: Expert Opinions on Diarra and Reinildo

30 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen catches up with Cyril Olives from L'Equipe and Jeremy Beren from That Atleti Pod to talk about Habib Diarra and Reinildo Mandava respectively....

Wise Men Say Meet Peter Reid - Part 2

23 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The second part of our wide-ranging chat with former Sunderland manager Peter Reid as we discuss his seven-year reign in charge of the Black Cats, inc...

Wise Men Say Meet Peter Reid - Part 1

20 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We meet up with former Sunderland manager Peter Reid and discuss his seven-year reign in charge of the Black Cats, including two promotions, our two b...

WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Terry Butcher

19 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Think Terry Butcher.Blood and bandages, Italia 90, Glasgow Rangers and their English invasion, Bobby Robson's Ipswich. He also played for and managed ...

WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Malcolm Crosby

18 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We've delved back into the archives to bring you the second in the Meet the Manager series - today, it's Malcolm Crosby's turn.Malcolm speaks to us ab...

WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Denis Smith

17 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We've delved into the archives to bring you the first in the Meet the Manager series where we speak to Denis Smith.Denis talks us through his early ye...

Discussing The Impact of Peter Reid

16 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen, Gareth and Andy Dawson look back at the generational impact that Peter Reid made to the club. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more...

MONDAY POD: Who can make the step up to the Premier League?

02 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Richard Easterbrook talk about the positions Sunderland will need to strengthen as they look forward to their ret...

Monday (Tuesday) Show: Actual Match Stuff W/Frankie Francis

27 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth bring you the Monday Pod on a Tuesday. Lots of Wembley hysteria is still ongoing but here's some actual crack about the match. WMS ...

The WMS Wembley Diaries

25 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Wise Men Say team recorded their thoughts across a memorable weekend for Sunderland AFC, from setting off to London, heading to Trafalgar Square, ...

REACTION: Sheffield United 1-2 Sunderland - Play-Off Final

25 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!!!Eleanor McCabe presents from WMS' spiritual home in the capital, the Marquis Cornwallis, as Sunderland secured their return to...

PREVIEW: Wembley Preview Part Two

22 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe, Jimmy Reay and special guest Matthew Keeling as excitement continues to build for Sunderland's Champi...

MONDAY SHOW: Wembley Preview Part One

19 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth are joined by Andy Dawson to bring you the first of two pods where the WMS gang talk about Saturday. Oh and Rick pops his head in t...

Post-Coventry Chat w/Rory Fallow

15 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Richard Easterbrook and special guest, Sunderland AFC match announcer - and former Wise Men Say presenter - Rory Fallow...

REACTION: Sunderland 1-1 Coventry (AET, 3-2 on aggregate)

13 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor and Mick bring you their reaction on one of the greatest nights the Stadium of Light has ever seen as Sunderland score in the last minute of e...

PREVIEW SHOW: Sunderland and Coventry Round 2

12 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How are your nerves? Sunderland proved lots of people wrong in the first leg but this tie is nowhere near done yet. Stephen, Gareth and Eleanor discus...

REACTION: Play-Offs - Coventry 1-2 Sunderland

09 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Mick react to the win over Coventry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

PREVIEW SHOW: Coventry (A) Play-Offs, 1st Leg

07 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen, Gareth and Mick preview the 1st leg of our play-off tie against Coventry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

MONDAY SHOW: Play-Off Bonanza

05 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We got views and perspectives from the rest of the sides in this season's play-offs. We spoke to David from Forever Bristol City, Chad from The Red Ha...

LIVE REACTION: Sunderland 0-1 QPR with Julio Arca

03 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen Goldsmith and Richard Easterbrook were live at The Fire Station after the QPR defeat and were joined by Sunderland legend Julio Arca! The lads...

WMS Meets Paul Hardyman

02 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Okay, so we've actually spoken to him before but it was yonks ago. With it being play-off season (again) why not speak to a prevalent character from t...

PREVIEW: QPR (H)

01 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe as they look ahead to Sunderland's final game of the regular season against QPR. They also look at the...

MONDAY SHOW: Oxford United 2-0 Sunderland

28 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth are joined by We Are Sunderland's James Hunter to discuss our fourth defeat on the bounce. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy f...

PREVIEW: Oxford United (A)

24 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay as the lads look ahead to Sunderland's first trip to Oxford in three years. Hosted on Ac...

REVIEW/PREVIEW: Easter Defeats and Oxford Preview with Phil Smith

22 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by WMS contributor Jon Lambert and The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to discuss the Easter fixtures and look ahead to the Oxfo...

PREVIEW: Sunderland's Easter Fixtures

16 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay and We Are Sunderland's James Hunter ahead of Sunderland's Easter weekend fixtures, firstly at Bristol Cit...

MONDAY SHOW: More on Sunderland's Situation with Phil Smith

14 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth are joined by Phil Smith from the Sunderland Echo. They discuss the defeat to Swansea and the overall scenario Sunderland find them...

REACTION: Sunderland 0-1 Swansea City

12 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough and Richard Easterbrook as Sunderland fall to a 1-0 defeat at home to Swansea City. Hosted on Acast. See aca...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Swansea City

09 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Gareth Barker and Michael Lough as the lads react to Sunderland's 0-0 draw with Norwich, while previewing the visit o...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland Beat West Brom, Norwich Next

07 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Eleanor are joined by WMS alumni, Chris Weatherspoon, now at The Athletic. They look back at the 1-0 win at The Hawthorns and ahead to a t...

PREVIEW SHOW: Sunderland V WBA, Au Revoir Watson

02 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth and Eleanor react to the news of Tommy Watson departing this summer and preview the trip to The Hawthorns. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priva...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland beating Millwall and Midfielders at Right Back

31 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Rick look back at the win against Millwall. They also discuss the age-old Sunderland tradition of playing central midfielders at right bac...

REACTION: Sunderland 1-0 Millwall

29 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough bring you the reaction as Sunderland beat Millwall 1-0 at the Stadium of Light! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privac...

PREVIEW SHOW: Sunderland face Millwall

27 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

After an arse-kicking at Coventry, The Lads face Millwall at home to try and get things back on track. Stephen is joined by Mick and Jim to go over it...

MONDAY SHOW: Coventry 3-0 Sunderland

17 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth Barker and Mick Lough discuss Sunderland's defeat at Coventry. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

PREVIEW: Coventry City v Sunderland

12 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook and Jimmy Reay look back over Sunderland's 1-1 draw with Preston North End, while they preview the Black Cats' trip to Coventry Ci...

MONDAY SHOW: Lee Howey on Sunderland beating Cardiff, Previews Preston

10 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth are joined by former Sunderland Striker/Defender Lee Howey to discuss the Cardiff win and preview the visit of Preston. We also hea...

REACTION: Sunderland 2-1 Cardiff City

08 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Richard Easterbrook to look back over Sunderland's 2-1 win over Cardiff City at the Stadium of Light Hosted on Acast. See ...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Cardiff City

05 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay as the lads look ahead to Sunderland's match against Cardiff City at the Stadium of Ligh...

MONDAY SHOW: Sheff Wed 1-2 Sunderland

03 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth discuss the 2-1 win at Hillsborough. Friday Night delights. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

PREVIEW: Sheffield Wednesday v Sunderland

26 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's trip down to Sheffield Wednesday. Stephen speaks to Ash from The Wednesday W...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland 0-1 Hull City

24 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth further discuss the defeat at the hands of Hull City. What comes next for this young and tired team? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com...

The Sunderland Story Special Episode

23 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Sunderland Story returns to the Sunderland Empire in May after a hugely-successful first run in 2023. We sat down with writer Nicky Allt, Sunderla...

REACTION POD: Sunderland 0-1 Hull City

22 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

That was annoying wasn't it? A comical goal conceded and just not enough going forward.Eleanor and Mick react from the pub.  Hosted on Acast. See...

SAFC's First Ever Ground Regeneration and a Mackem Gladiator Slayer

21 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Bits and Bobs. Stephen calls into his local, The Fleece, to talk to Gav from Invigor8 who is undergoing an exciting project to regenerate Sunderland A...

MIDWEEK SHOW: Leeds review, Hull preview

19 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen, Gareth and Richard discuss the defeat at Leeds and preview the visit of Hull City. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informatio...

PREVIEW: Leeds United v Sunderland

13 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough to preview Sunderland's trip to Leeds United on Monday, while they look back on the Black Cats' 2-0 win...

MONDAY SHOW: Watford review, Luton Preview

10 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth reflect on the Watford draw and look ahead to the visit of Luton Town on Wednesday. We also hear from Andy Dawson and Frankie Franc...

REACTION: Sunderland 2-2 Watford

08 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough discuss another two points dropped in the race for promotion as Sunderland were held at home to Watford. Hosted on Ac...

MIDWEEK SHOW: Boro 2-3 Sunderland, Watford Preview

05 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Well finally Sunderland go to Boro and win. Stephen and Micky discuss it, fresh from making the trip down the A19. We also hear from The Anfield Wrap ...

Preview Show: Sunderland Travel To Boro

31 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Mick Lough are in the pub to chat about the upcoming match at Boro. Hear from Scott Wilson who gives an opposition perspective. Hosted on...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland 2-2 Plymouth

27 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth and Richard discuss the home draw with Plymouth Argyle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

REACTION: Sunderland 2-2 Plymouth Argyle

25 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough and Richard Easterbrook as Sunderland are held to a 2-2 draw by Plymouth Argyle at the Stadium of Light. Hos...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Plymouth

22 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's home game against Plymouth Argyle, while the lads react to the 1-0 victory a...

MONDAY SHOW: Burnley Review, Derby Preview

20 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth discuss the draw at Burnely and look ahead to the trip to Derby. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

PREVIEW: Burnley v Sunderland

16 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to preview Sunderland's trip to Turf Moor to face Burnley on Friday night. There's also ...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland 1-2 Stoke City

13 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth discuss our FA Cup defeat, the competition in general and our January transfer activity so far. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priv...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Stoke (FA Cup)

09 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook and Jimmy Reay look ahead to Sunderland's FA Cup third round tie against Stoke City! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mo...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland 1-0 Portsmouth (And Other Stuff)

06 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Back to back wins keeps Sunderland right in the mix for promotion. Portsmouth made it tough and it was a real scrappy affair but The Lads could and sh...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Portsmouth

03 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to preview the visit of Portsmouth to the Stadium of Light, and to discuss Sunderland's ...

REACTION: Sunderland 2-1 Sheffield United

02 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Gareth Barker for some post-game reaction as Sunderland got their 2025 off to a winning start with victory over Sheffield ...

Monday (we think) Show: Poor Results and Sheff Utd Next

30 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

What should have been four points became one, thanks to conceding two last minute goals, at Blackburn and Stoke respectively. Now we have a big one at...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland 2-1 Norwich

23 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth and Richard discuss the win over Norwich and our festive fixtures. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

REACTION: Sunderland 2-1 Norwich

21 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

That was a bit ropey at times wasn't it? But as always, this young group of lads just don't stop. Eleanor and Mick are joined by Jimmy in the pub afte...

CHRISTMAS QUIZ 2024!

17 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen hosts. How do Rick, Eleanor, Micky, Jimmy, and guest podcaster Graham Falk do? Play along at home too.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/pr...

MONDAY SHOW: Swansea 2-3 Sunderland

16 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth and Eleanor discuss the fantastic comeback victory at Swansea City. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

PREVIEW: Swansea City v Sunderland

12 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to look back at Sunderland's 1-1 draw with Bristol City and preview the Black Cats' trip...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland Beat Stoke, Bristol City Next

09 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Sunderland get back to winning ways overcoming atrocious weather. Can we follow up a victory over Stoke with another against Bristol City? Hosted on A...

REACTION: Sunderland 2-1 Stoke City

07 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Richard Easterbrook as Sunderland return to winning ways with a well-deserved 2-1 victory over Stoke City in quite terribl...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Stoke City

05 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker preview Sunderland's clash with Stoke City at the Stadium of Light! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mor...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland Lose, What Now?

02 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen, Gareth and Micky discuss Sunderland's defeat at Sheffield United. Can it be used as a moment in which to bounce back, or is this run now a ca...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Sheffield Utd

27 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth Barker is joined by Eleanor McCabe to discuss the draw with West Brom and look ahead to the trip to Sheffield United. Hosted on Acast. See acas...

MONDAY SHOW: Draw at Millwall and Preview of West Brom

25 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Richard catch up about that late, late Millwall equaliser. There's also the West Brom game to preview as the games come "thick and fast".&...

PREVIEW: Millwall v Sunderland

20 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook and Jimmy Reay discuss Sunderland's injury and suspension issues ahead of the Black Cats' trip to London to face in-form Millwall....

MONDAY SHOW: Coventry Draw, Assessing Sunderland's Situation

11 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen and Gareth are joined by Journalist James Hunter to discuss Saturday's draw with Coventry City. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mor...

REACTION: Sunderland 2-2 Coventry

09 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough react as Sunderland are held by Coventry City at the Stadium of Light Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more...

PREVIEW: Sunderland v Coventry City

07 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Gareth Barker and Michael Lough as the lads look back over Sunderland's 0-0 draw at Preston and preview the visit of ...

MONDAY SHOW: QPR 0-0 Sunderland, Preston Preview

04 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Stephen is joined by Eleanor to look back at the battling 0-0 draw at QPR. There's also the midweek trip to Preston to look forward to. They are joine...

PREVIEW: QPR v Sunderland

30 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe and Jimmy Reay as the team look ahead to Sunderland's visit to Queens Park Rangers in the SkyBet Champ...

MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland 2-0 Oxford United

28 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth is joined by The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to discuss a comfortable 2-0 win over Oxford United. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m...

REACTION: Sunderland 2-0 Oxford

26 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Eeeeeh another win. Eleanor, Mick and Rick discuss in the pub.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

PREVIEW: Oxford United, Win at Luton

24 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Gareth is joined by Jimmy Reay and Micky Lough to discuss the win at Luton and preview the visit of Oxford United. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priv...