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The World Plots Its Response to an 'Adversarial' America

21 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of President Trump's adversarial stance at Davos?

4.115 - 9.464 Luke Vargas

Davos gears up for President Trump with all eyes on how hard he pushes for Greenland.

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9.724 - 21.364 Damian Paletta

This is a completely different president than in past years. He's very at peace, ironically, being more adversarial with U.S. allies. And he's not going to take no for an answer.

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21.344 - 42.259 Luke Vargas

Plus, the U.S. shifts military firepower to the Middle East, and a big day for the Fed's independence at the Supreme Court. It's Wednesday, January 21st. I'm Luke Vargas for The Wall Street Journal, and here is the AM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories moving your world today. After a brief delay leaving the U.S.

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Chapter 2: How is Trump's approach to Greenland affecting international relations?

42.279 - 59.907 Luke Vargas

due to mechanical issues on Air Force One, President Trump is set to take center stage today in Davos, Switzerland. The journal's Jenny Strasberg is at the World Economic Forum and says the president's quest to acquire Greenland is dominating a gathering that organizers had titled A Spirit of Dialogue.

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59.954 - 92.102 Jenny Strasberg

Really, every topic, robotics, artificial intelligence, critical minerals, everything has been overtaken by discussion of Trump's visit today. Everyone's talking about his plan to acquire Greenland, his doubling down on that, despite the fact that global leaders are fighting back. Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada delivering a a speech that saw a relatively rare standing ovation.

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92.422 - 100.873 Mark Carney

We're reminded that we live in an era of great power rivalry, that the rules-based order is fading.

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100.893 - 110.746 Jenny Strasberg

And he called for global leaders to essentially act together and cooperate in the face of what a lot of people see as aggression.

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111.126 - 114.21 Luke Vargas

Though Jenny said that not everyone is taking Carney's approach.

114.477 - 121.827 Jenny Strasberg

There is a difference in how a lot of people are speaking publicly and how they are speaking privately.

Chapter 3: What challenges do world leaders face in dealing with Trump's policies?

122.227 - 141.451 Jenny Strasberg

In meetings with CEOs and other C-suite executives, consultants, etc., we're hearing a lot about anger and frustration and worry. about how this order is being disrupted. But at the same time, a lot of folks won't say their words publicly.

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141.931 - 162.051 Luke Vargas

President Trump is set to speak at 8.30 a.m. Eastern. And here to discuss what we can expect from those remarks, I'm joined by the journal's Washington coverage chief, Damian Palletta. Damian, I went through our archives to recall Trump's first Davos appearance as president back in 2018. He was talking about going after China's trade practices, though he didn't mention China by name. He

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Floated the U.S.

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Chapter 4: What military shifts is the U.S. making in the Middle East?

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joining a reworked version of the TPP, that Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact. And he framed his ideological priorities in quite conciliatory terms, saying America first did not mean America alone. Seems like quite a contrast to maybe where we are now.

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177.961 - 203.401 Damian Paletta

Yeah, this is a completely different president than in past years. He has a much different focus. He's very at peace, ironically, being more adversarial with U.S. allies. His approach here is that this is his second term, he's done playing nice, and he has his eyes on a target, which is the largest island in the world, Greenland, and he's not going to take no for an answer.

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203.602 - 214.476 Damian Paletta

And so I think we saw most of his first year of his second term, business leaders, world leaders, trying to play nice with him, trying to convince him that there are alternatives to his hard charging tactics.

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Chapter 5: How is the Supreme Court involved in Trump's actions regarding the Fed?

214.877 - 229.414 Damian Paletta

And now, quite frankly, business leaders and world leaders have to decide whether to finally stand up to him and push back. And the question is, what do they do? What kind of retaliatory measures can they take? Can they band together? Can Europe and Canada actually decouple from the United States.

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229.515 - 248.308 Damian Paletta

These are the sorts of conversations that are actively taking place at Davos and around the world right now as President Trump prepares to kind of draw his line in the sand or his line in the snow, so to speak, when he says, you know, what his actual plan is for Greenland. How is he going to proceed with Russia and Ukraine? You know, all these things kind of click together.

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Chapter 6: What are the contrasting views on AI's impact in the workplace?

248.368 - 261.985 Damian Paletta

Can the new world order replace an old world order that was much more cooperative and maybe slow moving, but much more of an alliance? You know, how does it work if the U.S. isn't a part of that, isn't leading that alliance anymore?

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261.965 - 278.877 Luke Vargas

Trump comfortable being adversarial, you say, and yet he's expressing confidence that, as he's put it, things are going to work out pretty well. Has the White House signaled what success for Trump would look like coming out of Davos? Is there a way they think there could be a negotiated settlement over Greenland or something to that effect?

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278.941 - 300.142 Damian Paletta

No. In fact, it's really interesting you ask that because I think there's a view in the White House that they're not exactly sure where Trump wants this to end. And so one of the frustrations for European leaders is that they don't know who to be negotiating with here. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, has made comments in recent weeks that are much more cautious.

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Chapter 7: How do workers perceive the efficiency of AI compared to CEOs?

300.182 - 314.382 Damian Paletta

You know, we're not going to use the military. This is something Trump wants to buy, Greenland. But then when President Trump speaks, it's a much more, you know, maybe we'll use the military. I'm not going to take anything off the table approach. And so it's hard for the Europeans to know exactly who to negotiate with.

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314.502 - 323.916 Damian Paletta

And that's why President Trump going to Davos here is such a key moment for the whole conversation, because they'll see how serious he is and what his ultimate objectives are.

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323.93 - 343.356 Luke Vargas

Damian, we've been speaking a lot here about foreign policy at the World Economic Forum. And I mean, look, I doubt most voters are as glued to Davos as we are. But does the president risk getting a bit distracted by, you know, territorial ambitions when voters we know are really focused on the economy and affordability?

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343.437 - 344.439 Damian Paletta

Excellent question.

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Chapter 8: What role does public perception play in the use of AI technology?

344.619 - 365.277 Damian Paletta

We're less than 10 months away from the midterm elections. And these are really consequential elections that will determine who controls Congress in the final two years of Trump's presidency. Now, President Trump is a lame duck president. He's not going to run for reelection. So his ambitions and goals might not completely overlap with the goals of the Republican Party or even the goals of voters.

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365.257 - 378.254 Damian Paletta

For voters, affordability and the economy, those are huge issues, and those are always big issues. Those are the sorts of things that can decide elections, potentially much more so than whether the United States controls Greenland. But President Trump is in legacy mode.

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378.314 - 395.056 Damian Paletta

He's trying to think of the sorts of things that'll outlive him, the sorts of things that'll define him and his legacy going into the future. Now, ironically, this midterm election idea is kind of forcing Trump to move faster because he knows he only has 10 or 11 more months of Republican control of Congress.

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395.116 - 410.735 Damian Paletta

If Democrats take control of the House, it makes it much harder for him to operate unilaterally like this. So that might make him even more adversarial, even more aggressive with the European allies. And that could, ironically, pull him even further away from voters. And that's exactly what we're going to be watching for today and in the days to come.

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Journal of Washington coverage chief Damian Paletta, thanks as always for dropping by.

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My pleasure.

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Thanks. Coming up, the Supreme Court weighs in on whether Trump can fire Lisa Cook from the Fed board. And we'll explore the growing gulf in the office as CEOs go all in on AI while workers feel left behind. That and more after the break.

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more American firepower is headed to the Middle East. The U.S. is sending a carrier, jets, and air defense systems to the region, giving President Trump more options for a strike on Iran. Last week, Trump pulled back from ordering an attack on Iran, but he's continued to press for what he terms decisive military options as the regime in Tehran tightens its control of the country.

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