Josh Brolin is a natural guest to return to the garage for a second chat because he and Marc relate on many levels. They both find themselves chasing addictions even when they’re sober. They’re both constantly looking for ways to connect with people. And they both just encountered an intense journey for emotional truth. Marc through his recent acting, Josh through the writing of his new memoir, From Under a Truck, which he calls the most humbling experience of his life. Click here to submit a question for an upcoming Ask Marc Anything episode. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chapter 1: What personal struggles do Marc and Josh discuss?
Die gehen in zwei Sekunden weg.
Und sie gehen in zwei Sekunden weg, aber sie riechen wie Gasoline und sie haben einen Punch. Ja. Aber ich habe sie immer zwischen meinem Gumm und meiner Zähne gehalten. Ja. Ich habe sieben Kavette bekommen. Von dem? Deshalb habe ich das gewechselt. Weil, ist da Zucker in denen? Es gibt viel Zucker und es gibt kein Zucker in denen.
Yeah, I did dip.
When I was young and then I did dip when I was doing that series.
Dude, when someone turned me on to snooze, like the Swedish shit, I was ordering it from fucking Sweden. From Sweden. And they made stuff in Sweden where I would put it in and I'd get up, I'd put it in and I gotta sit down and sweat. And like sometimes...
Isn't there something though in your throwback, you know, you're a sober guy, I'm a sober guy, but you're actually throwing back and there's something exciting about the, hey man, it's Mark. Can you get me some shit? And you're like, alright, mellow out, dude. Du bist jetzt verdammt alt und traurig.
Es ist so verrückt. Und dann musst du es mit diesen machen. Wo soll ich das rauswerfen? Ich mache gerade eine Szene und stelle es auf meine Hand, weil es immer noch drin ist.
Habe Kinder. Ich meine, habe junge Kinder. Du kannst sie nirgendwo haben. Und meine Frau hört das mitten in der Nacht. Ich weiß nicht, was ich tue. Ich schlafe. Ich habe eine Schnauze in meinem Lippen und ich lüge nicht. 24 Stunden am Tag. 24 Stunden am Tag. Und dann habe ich sie rausgeholt und sie auf den Tisch gesetzt.
Und dann würde mein Kind es an zwei Jahren holen, was wirklich... Vielleicht gibt es keine Nikotin, vielleicht gibt es keine Gefahr. Aber wenn sie es in den Mund setzt, wird sie krank. Und anstatt zu stoppen... I try and teach them. Don't do that. Stay away from daddy's drugs.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Josh Brolin share about his memoir?
Was für mich passiert ist... Like, it's like you said, though, I'm a comic, so, you know, my entire career is based on not crying. All I'm doing is professionally not crying. That's so well put.
That's true. That's my job. Making other people cry.
So here I am in this moment and she brings up Lynn and then she says to me, she goes, you know, just do the scene to her and I'll make sure she's here. Wow. I'm choking up now. Yeah. But the thing was, like you were saying, it wasn't, you know, just the loss. What got me to the place was because of my lack of belief in myself, that woman who passed away always believed in me.
Und es hat sie gefreut, als ich darin gearbeitet habe. Es war also diese Vorstellung ihres Glaubens in mich. Ein Positives. Es ist so gut. Es hat mein Leben verändert, weil du das sagst. Es ist der Moment, an dem du denkst, I don't give a fuck. If I'm going to be open to this, if I'm going to be honest about the truth of a scene, why can't you do that in your life?
Even with comedy, it's like, what do I got to worry about? Like, I've been doing this my whole fucking life. And every time you do it, you're like, I got to get them right up front. And I'm like, I don't have to get them at all. Fuck them.
But the whole thing is you go in there wanting to win. You want to go in there. You're saturated in abject fear. You want people to tell you good. And you forget everything that it's about. You forget about listening. You forget about connection. You forget about the fact that all people just want to fucking connect. They want to be seen. They want to be accepted.
Literally, that's what art comes down to. Yeah. I've never called myself an artist. I've always found it very difficult to say, well, you know, as an artist. And I go, like, what does that mean? What is it? But I do believe that through the process of this book, and I'm not just bringing it back to the book, just like, that's what it was, is I go...
When I was doing the Audible, I go, what the fuck did I do? Because like you with Sharon, I just got to a place where I just said, this is me. This is me exploring. This is me coming from a place that I think was...
such extreme behavior that you can if you from certain perspectives you could call it trauma and you go and somebody who found their way into being able to manifest creativity in a way that became a professional right professionally viable yeah and then was still stuck in that habit of self destruction and then found his way out of that too because he was more into this idea of
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