Ariana Grande can link one song to her entire life as a performer, from her childhood days singing for her grandpa to her life as a global pop superstar to her performance as Galinda in Wicked. That song is Over the Rainbow. Ariana talks with Marc about the constant presence of music in her life, how she developed her songwriting process, why she sought out a vocal coach for Wicked, how she protects her mental health in an emotionally demanding business, and more. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chapter 1: What song has had a significant impact on Ariana Grande's life?
Yeah. Yeah. Because it brings you to a place of remembrance and also connection and also, you know, just the honest feeling of loss. And, you know, you got to let it happen.
Yeah.
Yeah. But, you know, it's heavy.
It's very heavy.
Yeah. No one's going to get out of this thing without experiencing it one way or the other.
I know.
But one of the things that.
But it's so strange because people are so scared to talk about it. Or to allow it in any sense.
I did my whole last special about that. About dealing with it through comedy to provide some relief. Because there is no... cultural dialogue around it.
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Chapter 2: How did Ariana Grande develop her songwriting process?
Yeah.
Because like there is that, it's impossible not to have that feeling when somebody you love passes away that, well, I'm gonna, it's gonna happen to me.
Right.
It's selfish, but I agree with you. There should be a place where people can handle it because we're built to handle it.
Are you afraid of it? Of death? Well, I don't know. I think about it all the time. How are we here already? I had a feeling because I've listened to your show and I'm a fan of yours, but I knew I had a strange feeling that we would, you and I would meet, say hello. I would meet one cat and we would jump into like the depths of everything we've ever experienced.
I'm so sorry for asking you if you're afraid of death.
Nein, nein, nein, ich meine, ich glaube, es ist die meiste, du weißt, es ist eine ziemlich ehrliche Frage und ich meine, die gesamte, du weißt, die globale Ökonomie ist gebaut auf Menschen, die Angst vor dem Tod sind und geträumt sind, aber wenn ich darüber denke, denke ich manchmal, wie, naja, das wäre, du weißt, es wäre entspannt, wie, du weißt, ich denke, ich bin bereit für einen Rest, du weißt, aber, du weißt, ich möchte generell aufwachen, ja,
Oh mein Gott, sorry, I'm having a coughing fit.
I think I am afraid of it, but I think I can acknowledge it as an inevitability and I think coming to peace with it, which you don't have to do, you're young and I'm not that old, but there is a point where you're kind of like walking with it on a certain level.
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Chapter 3: What challenges does Ariana face in preserving her mental health?
Wir spielten Wochen und Wochen und Wochen. Und dann habe ich endlich gesagt, lass uns umlaufen. Let's bounce around. It's not there.
Let's bounce around.
And let's play. And let's do a new melody pass on something. Hand me a mic and I'll just sing and I'll just try new things and then we'll find something else. And then guess what? We'll bounce around and that will be there when we come back. And that's, I think, when I discovered that's how I'm able to be my most productive, creative self, is when I sort of take that pressure off.
If it's not pouring out of me... Like, I'm not going to shove my head in the sand until it comes out right. I don't have that. I have a perfectionist tendency in a different way.
Like, if it's not right, you don't get frustrated and say, fuck it, let's come back in a week. You're just sort of like, let's open it up and try some other places.
I just sort of like to let the right thing fall out. And if there's a beat that I love, but it's not pouring out in that moment, I'll save it in my favorites folder and I'll come back to it the next day and it will be there that day because I know there's something there. I know enough to know if I hear something, a track or something that inspires me, that it'll be there if it's
Und auch, du hast diese komplette Kontrolle über diese massive Vokal-Range. Also, ich glaube, über die Zeit, als du die Kontrolle über dein Instrument hattest, hat es viele Wege geöffnet, um mit dir zu experimentieren.
Yeah, I think so. I think so.
Is that just more innate? You don't think that way? Like, well, if I take it up to this octave and we can go down from here, you just kind of feel it out?
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