Sarah Silverman and Marc go back more than 30 years and although they know a lot about each other from the past, they can both acknowledge that they haven’t stopped growing and learning and changing right up to the present. Sarah and Marc talk about making peace with the signs of aging, including hearing loss, and how an embrace of closure helped her deal with the loss of her father and stepmother, which is the center of her new Netflix special, PostMortem. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
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Alright, let's do this. How are you, what the fuckers, what the fuck buddies, what the fuck nicks? What's happening? I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast. Welcome to it. How's everyone holding up? Sarah Silverman is back on the show today. Have not talked to her in a long time. I've known her forever. She's been on the show a few times. A live one back in 2009. A full talk in 2010.
A short talk in 2016. And now it's time to... Untertitelung des ZDF für funk, 2017 We shot some promos for The Bad Guys 2, which I guess, I think opens in August. The movie's gonna be good. If you like that kind of animation stuff, this thing moves. It's got a good clip to it. But we're over at Universal.
It's me and Rockwell, Natasha Lyonne, Zazie Bates, Anthony Ramos, Danielle Brooks, Maria Bakalova. We were all there. Nalkwafina. Nora. Craig Robinson, too. For a day or two. We're shooting all these silly little pieces for this and that. And Rockwell's like, let's go on a ride. Let's go on a ride. We're right here. It's a universal theme park right there. And I'm like, alright. Let's go.
They couldn't make it happen the first day. And then yesterday they made it happen. And, uh, I don't know. You know, I felt pretty excited about it. And I forget that, you know, I'm not a huge ride guy. I can live without it. But we were in it and I was in it and I was like, let's do it. They walked us through a back door into the park so we could go on the mummy ride.
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Chapter 2: How has Sarah Silverman dealt with aging?
It's just, it's not true. Somebody tell my brain, it's not true. But the reason I'm talking about this, and I'm happy that I notice it and I don't take it for granted, is that I just went out there and killed so fucking hard. And I guess I did have a good time. Because I didn't expect it. I thought I'd have half the house with me on the politics and then I'd be kind of
Ja, kind of trying to get out of that. But that shit killed. Everybody knows what's going on. Everyone's fucking nervous. Everybody knows it's fucked up of all, you know, all right wing, left wing, Republican, Democrat. After a certain point, there's no way to deny it's fucked up. And if you really think it's going great, there's something wrong with you.
You're not a great person if seeing the amount of people that are scared or in pain or being denied their rights or their voice or ripped out of their homes. If that's something that you think makes this country what it is, then there's something wrong with you. And I don't know, it just, it landed in a way that was so explosive. And then I did the cat piece and it's just huge.
It was just, it was felt good to kill that fucking hard and to know that, you know, in my fucking bones already that I can do that. And then there's part of me that thinks like, well, why don't you just do that all the time? Why do you choose to do material sometimes that is provocative or challenging?
And then I guess the answer to that is, it's like, well, you know, I don't want it to be easy for them. I don't want to, what am I supposed to do, just make them laugh? Come on, man, let's take it to the edge. Mal sehen, wie weit wir gehen können und noch die Lachen bekommen. Schau dir das mal an. Lass uns in den Tunnel gehen. Mal sehen, ob wir eine Lache in dem dunklen Ort bekommen können.
Aber das ist nur ich. Aber ich kann es lichten. Ich kann nur lustig sein. Und es war spannend, das zu tun. Okay, schaut mal, ihr Jungs. Sarah is here. And I think I've known her since she was like 18 or 19 years old. And now we're grown people. And it was kind of nice to have a grown-up conversation with Sarah Silverman. Postmortem, her new special premieres on Netflix tomorrow, May 20th.
And it's very touching. It's very sweet. It's about the passing of her stepmom and her father within months of each other. But she really kind of Kind of keeps the balance. It's really something. Alright, this is me and Sarah.
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Chapter 3: What are the challenges of socializing as we age?
Aber seitdem wir alle lebendig sind, für so lange, wie wir lebendig sind, und ich denke, du sprichst frei auf deinem Podcast, ich weiß nicht, wie oft du es tust, aber du engagierst dich in dieser Weise, wo du die Muskeln des, wer du bist, in Bezug auf eine empathische Person und andere Menschen helfen kannst. Ja, genau, genau, genau.
We have so many facets of ourselves, all people I'm talking about. And I was just thinking, it's like, who am I going to be? Am I going to be bully, jackass, you know, Sarah, like makes fun of her friends? Or am I going to be like sincere?
It's not weird.
You know, therapy, Sarah. But like, you know, we're all different people depending on who we're sitting with.
We have broad personalities. Yeah. Expansive. Not so much me, but certainly in terms of your decision to do the comedy you did, which was just natural. Was there a point where you were like, man, I'm tired of this character I'm doing?
I don't know that it's like sitting and consciously thinking about it. I never really... Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja. Ja, ja, ja. Und, weißt du, es werden immer Leute sein, die wegfallen, und neue Leute, oder manche Leute wachsen mit dir, aber es gibt immer Leute, die sagen, erinnere dich, als sie lustig war? Und ich sage, ja, ich mache das.
Du hast mich die letzte Zeit so wütend gemacht, als ich dir den Witz gesagt habe, den ich erinnere. Du hast mich wütend gemacht. Was? Was? Because it was like one of your first jokes. And I was like, my favorite joke of yours is this one. And you're like, oh my god. I've done four specials. Oh, no. I don't know. But yeah, like doing that character. Yeah.
And I loved doing it and I had the Sarah Silverman program where I was like really got to play it out and be a huge asshole.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How did Sarah Silverman's parents influence her?
Ich meine, das ist so dumm, aber ich, weißt du, als ich klein war, habe ich Mr. Rogers gesehen und dann, als ich in der Hochschule war, war es vor der Schule und ich hätte es an und ich habe es einfach in einem ganz neuen, wie mein Gehirn schlägt.
Ja, ja, sicher.
fucking brilliant. You know, in Sesame Street. It's kind of like how if you experience grief as a child, you re-experience it at every stage of development. Well, that's kind of like the same with art or anything, I guess.
I also think it's interesting that you and I, neither of us have kids. And so, you know, we have to grow up slower, I think, than other people. Because we're just like, almost like children. Yeah.
We also have more space to... This is going to sound really like eye-rolly.
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To raise ourselves, to continue to raise ourselves.
Yeah, because we needed to. I mean, the fucking thing about being brought up by narcissists, and I don't think your mom was one, but your dad was, is that they take up so much air. Ja. Ja, und wie...
What mood are they in when they come home? And that's that's my future. That's like what my night will be.
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