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Chapter 1: What is the impact of sibling success on family dynamics?
Show requested. So here it is. As long as you've got da-da-dada. It's ZM's Brian Clint Podcast. Liam Lawson, New Zealand Formula One driver. He's our current most successful race car driver, isn't he? Shane Van Gisbergen's doing pretty good, but Formula One, baby. I mean, Shane is pretty up there, though.
Liam Lawson has talked about what the cost and sacrifice was for his family to get him to where he is in Formula One. I can only imagine. It doesn't just happen. Because it's a rich person's sport. It is, and he is not. from a family of billionaires. He's just a regular Kiwi dude from a regular Kiwi family.
Yeah.
He's gone on the High Performance podcast. I'm going to play you a clip of it. Just be prepared to feel something. Okay. Okay, from this clip.
Chapter 2: How has Liam Lawson's journey influenced sibling relationships?
This is Liam Lawson talking about his journey to get to where he is in Formula One.
parents found this card that my brother had written my dad when he was like five years old and the card was like dear dad if i like racing will you spend more time with me like liam and like that like honestly like for my yeah my siblings and family that have just given up so much and never going on holiday never doing anything just always yeah that's oh my god that's actually like that does actually get you you know yeah
Everybody on the podcast teared up. It was two blokes and Liam, and they all got a bit choked up on that, as you would.
It hits hard, something like that, doesn't it?
Liam's talked in interviews before about how his family have just mortgaged their house on top of mortgaging their house because staying in race car driving takes a lot of money.
It does make you think, like hearing something like that, it makes me think, is it actually worth it?
You know? Well, imagine if he hadn't made it to Formula One. And so many people would do that, and they'd fall short at the last bit. Liam did say that his brother's funny. He's fine about it now.
So he says.
He says his brother laughs about it now. So he says. But as a five-year-old, and you just see dads always at the racetrack with Liam, and you're like...
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Chapter 3: What sacrifices do families make for a sibling's success?
But it is what it is. That's rough. We want to talk to people this afternoon who have suffered through the success of a sibling.
You said this is how you were like the Liam Lawson in your family. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I said. Not true. Yeah. It's relatable, okay? It happens. And maybe you're over it now, maybe you're not. We want to know if you have a sibling who got more time, money or attention because they were good at something that you weren't.
Imagine being like the sister. Imagine like Taylor Swift's brother.
Imagine being the fourth Jonas brother. Imagine being the third Hemsworth brother. awful. Exactly right. Imagine being the third Williams sister. You know? Miley Cyrus' sister. And brother.
Oh, that's right. She has a brother too.
Claudia's like, they're fine. Really? You think Noah Cyrus is fine compared to what Miley's achieved?
Well, compared, but like she's got her own thing going on and her brother's in that band. Compared to Miley?
Her brother's in the band Metro Station. That doesn't count.
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Chapter 4: How does jealousy manifest between siblings?
Were you a victim of your sibling's success? And are you the successful one? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I was. Good on you, Anna. What were you good at? Why were you successful? I used to row for New Zealand. Whoa, well done. First of all, awesome. Do you know Lisa Carrington? She does the kayak. Do you know Mahe Drysdale? Yes, I do. Do you know Emma Twigg? Yes. Yeah, nice.
We went for, so I live just down, like just a couple of houses down from her and actually Mahi as well. And we used to go on what we called street slash flat walks every night. Oh, so you're in with the Olympians. No way. You are successful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did your rowing success affect your siblings, Anna? Well, my sister used to sort of hide in the shadows, as she would put it.
Yeah, got it. My brother, he was eight years younger than me, so when he reached high school level, I was sort of reaching my sort of peak of growing, and he felt like he had to live in the shadows of me until he found out how much it cost. I mean, nah. Like, for one... For the junior level, for one training camp would cost us about $23,000. Oh, my God. What do your parents do? Are you guys rich?
No, we're farmers, so we are very rich.
So it's all on the mortgage.
So did your brother have to, like, go without shoes that year or something?
No.
He does complain about it.
It's annoying though, Anna. You wish that your success would just inspire them to be better, right? I did. You're like, just follow in my footsteps. Yeah, I did want him to row, but he just felt like he had... That'd be the last thing he wanted to do because he resents you too much. Yeah, yeah.
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Chapter 5: What are the emotional effects of being the less successful sibling?
I don't need it. Yeah, yeah. Becky's here. Hi, Becky. Hi, Becky. Hi. How are you? Good. Who's the successful sibling? Is it you or not? No. Well, I wouldn't say I was successful. I actually think I was misfortunate. But my brother used to give my parents and me crap because I had to have braces when I was a teenager. I had horrible teeth.
And I had to get braces and then I had a horse riding accident that bunged my head and then I had to get glasses. So my brother used to bitch and moan that my mum and my dad had spent all this money on me and my braces and my glasses and that he should get the money instead. What? Yeah, he thought he should have the money value of what my parents had spent on me for my glasses and braces.
Because you had a head injury, your brother gets money because of that. What? Because I had to have glasses.
If you had had to have emergency surgery to have your appendix removed or something and there was a $10,000 cost, would he expect a $10,000 cash contribution too? So I would say so. Yeah, it's a bit funny because unfortunately we did lose my brother 12 years ago, actually. But it's become a bit of a funny, you know, it's one of those funny things you remember about him.
Oh, that's so funny. I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry to hear about your brother.
I need to know. No. At what age were you guys having these kind of conversations, though? Oh, my God.
Well, I got my braces when I was about 14. And, yeah, my glasses were around sort of the same time. But, yeah, the amount of shit he gave Mum and Dad that he should get the money.
That's so funny. You know what I love about this? I love that it just goes to show that...
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Chapter 6: How do parents navigate favoritism among siblings?
It's universal. All siblings are all the same.
It's all the same. And you will find something to be jealous of. Yeah. You'll find some way to suggest to your parents that they're not being fair. You know, oh no, sorry I had crooked buck teeth. Sorry, I can't see. And I had a severe concussion and I now need glasses. Sorry for my head injury. Very funny, Becky. We asked, did you suffer from being the less successful sibling?
Someone said, I suffer through not having children and therefore not being as interesting as my other siblings are to my parents. Oh, I can hear the chip on your shoulder in that text.
Yeah.
I can.
Yeah. And that's hard because obviously the parents are like, oh, grandkids and this and that. And all their time gets taken up with the grandkids.
Yeah. Violet said, lol, I'm the only sibling out of three to go to uni. And I want to know if your siblings are like, well, you paid $20,000 towards Violet's student loan. Just because I'm going to university doesn't mean I shouldn't get $20,000. I want $20,000.
Isn't it? It's just outrageous to me, like, what people expect. What about this? My sibling was a successful a-hole, took up all of our parents' attention and time and money. They wagged school, ran away from home, got pregnant. Does that count? Yeah, I kind of see what you're saying.
You suffered.
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Chapter 7: What humorous sibling rivalry stories can we share?
Isn't it 50% of when you're joking? There's always a little bit of truth. There's some quote in there. I'm pretty far off, but it was the gist.
Don't worry, mate. Your parents liked you for your sport, not your speech and drama.