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静岡の杉本さんをゲストに、Code for Kakegawaで取り組んだ「CHABACCO」の自動販売機の仕組みや自助、公助、共助が防災には必要で、シビックテックとも相性がいいということ等を聞いちゃいます。 チャバコ https://www.oricon.co.jp/special/52033/
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