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摘要：受《中国民主季刊》委托，王柏先生对旅居巴黎的张崑博士做了这篇访谈。他们对民主的不同层面、社会与政权的关系，以及身份平等的意涵做了深入讨论、提出了不同的见解。他们突出强调了“自愿行动”，以期从一个独特角度为中国的民主化进路提供启示。
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