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【聊天的人】沙青青（播客《边角聊》主播、公号：@13号埋立地）梵一如【时间轴】00:29 稀客沙青青硬核探讨视频播客07:13 B站强推视频播客：砸钱与底层逻辑13:29 视频播客=换皮《圆桌派》？19:07 B站为自己和为up主赚钱的能力堪忧23:48 YouTube为何成全球播客顶流？32:21 一鸡多吃何乐不为？海外成熟播客扎堆油管37:31 美国人把油管播客当BGM？45:38 AI来了！哪类主播先慌了？58:49 罗永浩做视频播客为不为赚钱？01:06:40 传统媒体做播客难在哪？01:13:19 AI与播客未来：找准定位别在无效焦虑上浪费精力【剪辑】王俊翔、梵一如【片尾曲】王博 - 没出息（feat.王世坚）【制作】番薯剥壳工作室（Yakimo Studio）
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