【 聊天的人 】梵一如（ID：@梵一如）徐真然（播客《徐徐的》主播、日本综艺《月曜夜未央》制作人）【 时间轴 】01:46 开局即破梗，徐老师不打算待日本了06:41 恶评刺耳，好评却是沉默的大多数10:35 我徐真然啥时候欠你个饭团17:13 从月曜看到另一种中国社会的真实21:12 传统电视节目收视率的焦虑：还有其他衡量标准吗？30:07 日本电视内容的困境：敢试错吗？32:13 连瘦50斤，被改变的不光光是体重43:21 去英国留学 给自己未来留更多可能性 【OP】邹晟栋（童声）RayHan（音乐）【 Logo 】ZUM XIN【收听方式】推荐使用苹果系统自带【播客】APP、【小宇宙】APP或任意安卓播客客户端订阅收听《井户端会议》，也可通过【网易云音乐】、【喜马拉雅】、【荔枝FM】、【蜻蜓FM】等APP收听。【剪辑】王俊翔、梵一如、朵朵【 出品・制作 】番薯剥壳工作室（Yakimo Studio）
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