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这一期的嘉宾是西乔和霍炬，我们一起聊了关于AI艺术创作的话题，还代表苹果遗老界疯狂吐槽了这些年的苹果。西乔做的AI艺术分享社区应用：KALOS.art霍炬做的AI绘画后端流水线服务：dfserver 「后互联网时代的乱弹」节目由「声湃 WavPub」提供内容托管和数据服务支持。
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