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生活と制作が地続きになっているつくり手の魅力を伝えるには、つくり手の制作環境や背景を語ることも大切。ゲスト：米田昌功氏（特定非営利活動法人障害者アート支援工房ココペリ代表）聞き手：河原功也（東京都渋谷公園通りギャラリー 学芸員）編集：小山友也【2025年2月収録】
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