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两年前参加了知名网络写手David Perell价值不菲的写作课程Write of Passage，成为第七班的毕业生，和诸多网络写手大神们也成了校友（诸如Not Boring的Packy)，还因此结识了不少志同道合的写作者，并邀请他们作客Chiwi Journal播客，分享写作心得和人生感悟。之前在我的中文播客「理想屯」（137期）和英文播客「Chiwi Journal」（128期）采访了这门课程的总监Will Mannon（中文名马晓伟），深深被他学习中文的热情所打动。今年在伦敦终于和他线下见面了，他也回礼用中文采访了我一番，聊了聊足球、文学、存在主义、冥想、诗歌、写作等诸多话题，欢迎收听！
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