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本期导引 今天这期节目是由看理想新媒体的小伙伴汁儿代班，采访悦然老师。 赵丽颖、辛芷蕾主演的电影《乔妍的心事》改编自作家张悦然的小说《大乔小乔》，悦然老师也参与了电影的改编工作。自电影上映以来，评论分化明显，似乎女性作为主角的电影，总会引起格外的注目与审视。 在这样一个时刻，我们采访到悦然老师，和她聊了聊关于改编、人物原型、女性主义、女性关系、文学影视化等许多方面的内容。 女性为什么总在"争夺"？总要争夺？答案，或许在女性之外。 本期推荐 张悦然主讲音频节目《女作家》 张悦然小说集《大乔小乔》 本期音乐（部分） 陈粒《乔妍的心事》和声伴奏 赵丽颖、辛芷蕾《渔樵问答》 本期嘉宾 | 张悦然 本期采访 | 汁儿（没理想编辑部） 本期串讲 、制作 ｜dy
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