02:02 艺术家的生活状态：独立艺术家在中国的挑战与变化04:10 艺术品市场萎缩、抑郁症与创作之间的关系：一个艺术家的思考08:20 创造收入的另一种方式：积累思维与随时应对项目挑战12:34 艺术家的职业生涯：追求长期主义与个人价值的思考16:44 艺术家的责任与信念：为中国发展贡献智慧与力量20:57 艺术创作的边界坚守：中国乔丹的困境与菱形足球品牌的崛起25:06 以服务于人为核心，艺术与现实世界产生更多接触的方式29:18 分享经验：在旅游行业寻找更多合作机会的技巧和建议33:24 唯一的朋友，真正的支持：在焦虑与孤独中的寻找安全感37:41 创作与商业的交织：艺术家在品牌设计中的角色定位41:54 你的局限性：每天只能与一人交流，如何建立更多的人际关系？46:05 寻求专业帮助还是自己处理？消费者的选择困境。 听友群+V: JXLJXL36嘉宾们也都在群里哦~
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