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2025年5月28日 三年前，俄乌战争全面爆发，乌克兰人至今没有被击垮。他们是怎么做到的？本期《大声访谈》，我们邀请到刚刚从乌克兰利沃夫归来的资深记者与编辑 Filip Noubel，继续他与我们的深度对谈。他曾在加德满都与吴薇分享“俄罗斯人如何看中国”的跨文化视角；这一次，他带回了一个更震撼、更真实的提问：在炮火不断、资源短缺、未来不确定的情况下，乌克兰人是如何扛下来的？节目中，Filip 分享了他在利沃夫媒体论坛上的见闻——与乌克兰公民社会、独立媒体、诺贝尔和平奖得主组织的直接交流。他描绘了一个在战火中依然办展览、开咖啡馆、坚持新闻理想的民族。他还带去了来自台湾的声音，与乌克兰记者展开一场罕见的对话：到底是台湾危险，还是乌克兰更危险？
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