5DCA Oral Argument - 2026/04/07 - Apr 07, 2026
argument5DCA Oral Argument - 2026/04/07
California Fifth District Court of Appeal
31 min
7 chapters
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What are the opening formalities and case introductions for People v. Moffatt‑Tenang?
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And welcome. At this time, the court will call case number F088048. This is the People v. Moffatt-Tenang. And councillor, if you could please state your appearances for the record.
Good afternoon, Your Honor. Erin Radican appearing remotely for appellant Moffatt-Tenang.
How does the appellant’s counsel argue that the trial court erred on Penal Code §1473.7 relief?
Louis Martinez appearing for respondent.
Thank you both very much. And we are very familiar with the facts and circumstances of your case. And Ms. Radican, we can hear and see you perfectly. So if you have any problem hearing us, please tell us. And Ms. Radican, you've asked for 15 minutes. Would you like me to tell you when you have five minutes remaining for rebuttal?
Yes, please.
That would be fine. And you may proceed.
What evidence does the appellant present about inadequate immigration advice and plea‑bargain negotiations?
Good afternoon, Your Honors.
In this case, the appellant's contention is that the trial court erred in denying relief under Penal Code Section 1473.7. The record doesn't reflect that appellant Mr. was ever informed that his conviction would make him ineligible for any defense against removal that would allow him to retain his residency status. The immigration attorney did not speak to him or do a complete analysis, and the record only reflects that he was told that he'd well be deported in the plea form, and that he should not grave concerns about deportation. He wasn't fully advised. The trial court's order is not really clear, but if the court was basing it only on the advisement in the plea form, that's clearly wrong under Curiole.
and Manzanilla, and Duvar, and Espinosa. Furthermore, it's clear from this record that counsel didn't make a real attempt to negotiate an immigration-safe plea bargain. He was under the impression and concluded that because the DA wanted to strike and wouldn't take a probationary disposition, they weren't going to take, there was no immigration-safe plea bargain. And therefore, it was impossible. And the court erred in Council erred in making that inference, because whether or not the conviction to strike just has no relevance for immigration consequences. Likewise, whether or not he gets a probation sentence, again, as miscastigated to testify, analyzing a particular defendant's immigration consequences for a particular conviction is complex.
How does the respondent’s attorney counter the appellant’s claims about deportation risk and plea‑bargain feasibility?
It depends on their status. It depends on a number of factors, such as how long they've been in the US. Here, I think the record is clear that not only was he not sufficiently advised of all the consequences so that he could make a meaningful decision, he wasn't advised, hey, you're not going to have a defense against removal that would allow you to retain your residency status. And there was not any real effort to negotiate an immigration-safe plea bargain. And I think the record shows that prejudice for that reason, because it was clear that Mr. Tanang had strong ties to the US. He came here in 2017. He came here in 2007. He faces persecution if he goes back to Cameroon. So I think he made a case, at least more than an abstract possibility.
Again, all he has to show is a reasonable probability, more than an abstract possibility, not preponderance of the evidence, that he would have been able to negotiate a safer plea bargain, or he would have gone to trial. And I think the record shows that. And I actually think at this point I would, unless the court has questions, submit.
There appear to be any. You have almost 12 minutes remaining.
What questions does the panel raise regarding the record’s sufficiency and prejudice to the appellant?
Mr. Martinez?
Good afternoon, if it please the Court. Luis Martinez for the People. Just a couple of points. First of all, he definitely was told that it would be quite likely that he would be deported as a result of his plea. So he was definitely aware of that. With regard to whether an immigration-safe plea could have been negotiated, counsel testified at the hearing that he tried, but simply the prosecution wasn't willing to stipulate to anything that wouldn't involve a GBI enhancement or wouldn't involve a strike or a prison term. Even today, I don't think there's anything that has been offered that would allow all of those things and still be considered immigration safe.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What are the opening formalities and case introductions for People v. Moffatt‑Tenang?
0:19–17:10
2
How does the appellant’s counsel argue that the trial court erred on Penal Code §1473.7 relief?
17:10–17:36
3
What evidence does the appellant present about inadequate immigration advice and plea‑bargain negotiations?
17:36–19:24
4
How does the respondent’s attorney counter the appellant’s claims about deportation risk and plea‑bargain feasibility?
19:24–20:44
5
What questions does the panel raise regarding the record’s sufficiency and prejudice to the appellant?
20:44–22:50
6
How does the appellant’s counsel summarize the record and request submission of arguments?
22:50–24:13
7
What are the final remarks, acknowledgments, and procedural next steps before the court recesses?
24:13–27:05