4DCA Division 3 Oral Argument - 2026/03/18 - Mar 18, 2026

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4DCA Division 3 Oral Argument - 2026/03/18

California Fourth District Court of Appeal, Division Three 2h 0m 2 speakers 1 chapter transcribed 9 days ago official recording ↗

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Unknown 0:37

Good morning.

Craig Beauchamp 0:40

Good morning.

Unknown 0:42

Good morning. Welcome to the Court of Appeal. Can I get your name please to check you in?

Craig Beauchamp 0:48

Yes, it's Craig Beauchamp, um, attorney for uh appellants in uh ragushe and mrmk against Um Sahar Pew and the law firm of Fairchild Milstein Jackson and Wait and I may have gotten it a little bit mixed up, but

Unknown 1:12

Okay.

Craig Beauchamp 1:12

Uh Per

Unknown 1:13

Perfect. So I checked you and now if you don't mind just muting your line and then just wait until the justices will call your case. Court will begin at nine thirty.

Craig Beauchamp 1:23

Can I ask a question? Um Is there any chance that I can go last in the morning?

Unknown 1:33

Um, unfortunately your right now the calendar, your case is set to be the first case, but it'll be up to the justices.

Craig Beauchamp 1:44

Okay. Um Thank you.

Unknown 1:47

Okay, thanks.

Scott Danforth 1:52

Hi. How are you? Yeah, Scott Danforth from the last one. Okay.

Unknown 2:01

Mm. Thank you.

Unknown 4:28

Hey, good morning. Mr. Michael Sivia.

Unknown 5:08

Hi Mr Sylvian, are you there? Your microphone is unmuted. I'm not sure if you're there. Can I have you confirm?

Dayton Parcells 5:53

Thank you.

Unknown 5:56

Um so you can only have it when you're up here at the morning.

Unknown 7:38

When you cancel. Yeah, I'm checking the map.

Unknown 7:50

Good morning.

Nicholas Bronni 7:53

Recame so.

Unknown 8:02

Are you in the same block room? Yes.

Unknown 8:21

Yeah, I know he's already here.

Unknown 10:19

Uh Marshall Sheraton? Okay.

Unknown 15:34

Mr Michael Zivian, are you there?

Nicholas Bronni 18:56

Yeah, things change.

Michael Tsivan 20:59

Good morning. This is Michael Tsibian speaking. I'm here for um check in for oral arguments. Can anybody hear me?

Unknown 21:08

Council, good morning. Yes, I can hear you.

Michael Tsivan 21:11

Okay, thank you.

Unknown 21:12

I'm checked in. Please just mute your phone and wait for the justices to call on your case.

Michael Tsivan 21:17

And should I turn my video uh when I when I'm cold or just out

Unknown 21:21

No, the video is off, um just your audio.

Michael Tsivan 21:24

Video is off. Okay, that's okay.

Unknown 21:26

Okay, thank you.

Michael Tsivan 21:28

Sure, not prone, thank you.

Unknown 22:25

Morning gentlemen. If I can get your attention real quick, just a reminder, no eating, no chewing gum, no drinking any liquids while you're back there for counseling when you come up and present our argument. There is water provided for you. This podium is adjustable in height. There's a black button right here on the right. And you hold it down for down. Vice versa for up. Currently it's recording. So it takes up any conversation far back in the room. Uh we all kind of know where the restroom is. It's outside to the opposite end. There is a water fountain right across. case you get thirsty between your the cases or when your case is heard. Uh there is hand sanitizer and wipes. We don't wipe them down between cases and I believe there's a a panel change as well.

Unknown 23:01

So that it'll be really brief so don't step out. Those that are here to observe, that's all you're doing. It's just observing, not uh shaking your head in disagreement or speaking up and let the attorney do the do their job. Okay. Any questions, concerns? Oh, before I forget, um, I have to say this. No reading articles that don't pertain to your case, such as newspaper, magazines and so forth. Someone did it, so that's what we had to say. All right. Um, any questions? No? Awesome. But in uh if you didn't weren't aware that some some of the uh parties were uh covered occurring, so you'll hear that.

Unknown 25:11

Good morning, Mr. Shaw. Are you there?

Unknown 25:22

Mr. Shaw, if you're on the line, can you please unmute your line and check in?

Unknown 27:12

Mr. Shaw, are you there? Can you unmute your line? If you hit star six, you're be able to unmute.

Craig Beauchamp 27:45

Hello? Hello, this is Craig Beauchamp.

Asram Shaw 28:29

Okay, I did that.

Asram Shaw 28:37

Am I unmuted now? Hello?

Asram Shaw 28:49

Hello.

Asram Shaw 28:56

Mm yes, I'm here.

Unknown 28:58

Okay, perfect. I'm checking it. Please unmute your please mute your line when the justices call you, please unmute it.

Asram Shaw 29:22

Am I on mute now?

Unknown 33:12

Yeah, just a nerve. All rise. Portal appeal for the public commission three is now open.

Justice Moore 33:20

Good morning, everyone. Good

Unknown 33:21

morning.

Justice Moore 33:26

I am Justice Moore, and to my right is Justice Sanchez, and to my left is Justice Scott. We have four matters on calendar this morning and we have two separate panels. We will hear the first matter and then we'll have a very brief uh recess for a panel change. And I wanna uh tell you that some of the names of the parties this morning are going to be difficult for me to pronounce. I will do my best. The first matter on calendar is Rago Shea versus Pew.