American Trucking Assns., Inc. v. Los Angeles (11-798)

argument 11-798

American Trucking Assns., Inc. v. Los Angeles

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What is the statutory basis of the F‑Quad A’s Express Preemption Clause?

John G. Roberts 0:01
We'll hear argument next in Case 11-798, American Trucking Associations v. the City of Los Angeles. Mr. Lerman.
Jonathan Lerman 0:14
Mr. Chief Justice, it may please the Court. This case is about the plain text of the F-Quad A's Express Preemption Clause and the continuing vitality of this Court's decision in Castle v. Hayes Freight Lines. I'd like to start by showing why the Court's requirements here fall within the text of the Statute and cannot be saved by any market participant exception. The F-Quad A provides that no State or political subdivision of a State may enact or enforce any law, regulation, or other provision having the force and effect of law related to rates, routes, and services of a motor carrier. The only statutory language at issue here is the force and effect of law requirement, and the Port's actions have the force and effect of law under any reasonable interpretation of the phrase.
Jonathan Lerman 1:00
The Port is imposing binding standards of conduct on motor carriers as a condition of accessing a channel of interstate commerce. The Port is enforcing those requirements through criminal penalties.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg 1:11
I thought that the Port said we don't apply our criminal penalties, which come from the car, we don't apply those to licensed motor carriers. They made that representation, so I think we have to accept that as being so.
Jonathan Lerman 1:27
They did make that representation and we could accept that, but it's irrelevant because the court is still imposing the criminal penalties on the terminal operators. And when a State is imposing criminal penalties, that is classic governmental action, the State acting in its sovereign capacity regardless of whom the penalties are imposed upon. And in this Court's decision in Roe, it made clear that States can regulate trucking activity through penalties, in that case civil penalties, and imposed only on people who do business with truckers. Here, the State's requirements are coming at the truckers from both ends. On the one end, you have the criminal penalties imposed on the terminal operators to coerce their conduct and exclude truckers.
Jonathan Lerman 2:06
On the other hand, you have the tariff, which puts conditions on access to the Port of Los Angeles, which is a key channel of interstate commerce. So the Port's requirements here have the force and effect of law in spades.
Elena Kagan 2:19
Can I break down your arguments into two components, if you might? Whether or not the market participant exception exists at all, and if it does, how far does it go? So let's get to the first question in my mind. It seems almost impossible for me to believe that the state couldn't require someone to put a little placard like you get at almost any building that you go into to park your car. They ask you to put a little placard in the front of your window so they know who you are and where you're going in the port. Why is the placard requirement here any different than that requirement generally? If you enter property, most people tell you, put a placard in the window to tell us you got permission to come in.
Jonathan Lerman 3:17
It's different in this case, Your Honor, because in addition to the overlay, that 14506 specifically targets identification requirements. And for purposes of this case, it's
Elena Kagan 3:27
— But even if that, if we didn't have a market participant, why couldn't the State say, when you come into the terminal, you've just got to put a little placard in so we know that you're not parking here overnight when you've already been unloaded or something else?
Jonathan Lerman 3:40
I think you need to look to the particular of this case and the fact is that the placard requirement here is codified into an ordinance, it's backed by criminal penalties, and it's restricting access to a channel of commerce. Because we have all those factors here, it has the force and effect of law. MR.
Elena Kagan 3:55
Could the terminal say we have a pollution problem and only modern trucks can come and unload here? MR. So they have to take trucks that are too heavy for this crane to lift.
Jonathan Lerman 4:13
Heavy is a different scenario, Justice Sotomayor, because there's an express exception to the F-Quad A for weight and size restrictions.

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