Armour v. Indianapolis (11-161)

argument 11-161

Armour v. Indianapolis

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What is the case Armour v. Indianapolis about?

John G. Roberts 0:02

We'll hear argument f uh this morning in case eleven one hundred sixty one, Armour versus City of Indianapolis. Mr. Stansel.

J. David Stanzel 0:12

Mr Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. The city chose a method for abandoning its sewer funding mechanism that left petitioners paying thirty times more than their next door neighbours to connect to their neighborhood sewer project simply because petitioners had paid their tax bills in full. Mere timing of payment does not render similarly situated taxpayers into separate groups. That is particularly true here, where the taxpayers are a discreetly defined group of homeowners sharing equally in a common specific benefit. and state law explicitly defines them as similarly situated. The city's principal contention is that Jettisoning the Barrett Law, the way they funded the uh the initial taxation, was itself uh an end for this justification and itself justified the gross disparity imposed on petitioner.

J. David Stanzel 0:59

On petitioners. That does not. The fact that an arbitrary classification may yield a desirable result does not render it any less arbitrary. The city must have a reason for drawing the distinction, but paying one's taxes in good faith does not eliminate a taxpayer's right to equal treatment. Indeed, state law here makes clear that delaying payment by choosing an installment plan does not put a taxpayer on special footing.

How did the city’s sewer‑funding method create a disparity among homeowners?

J. David Stanzel 1:21

For example, the Barrett Law declares that instalment payments, quote, shall be collected in the same manner as other taxes. and installment payments are automatically secured by a lien against the property. Taxpayers who select the installment plan, which they may do for any reason or no reason whatsoever, and in fact, if they make no choice, they default into the installment plan. They are required, if the city asks, as it did here, to sign an agreement agreeing to pay the installments in full with interest and not to contest the validity of the underlying assessment.

Elena Kagan 1:51

Um I understand your arguments. Um your adversary raises a point that concerns me. which is what happens to all other amnesty programmes like parking ticket amnesties. And if you take your logic to excr an extreme, How about something that doesn't involve money, but immigration status amnesty illegal aliens who can um apply for citizenship and be forgiven. their illegal entry. Um Doesn't the logic of your theory basically mean that there are no circumstances in which the government could treat people differently?

J. David Stanzel 2:33

No, Your Honor, for several reasons.

Why does the plaintiff claim an Equal Protection violation under the Barrett Law?

J. David Stanzel 2:35

For starters, this Court's equal protection and rational basis cases in particular make clear that context is key. So forgiving a penalty imposed on a speeder, for example, who has an overdue ticket or a parking ticket is a qualitatively different judgment than forgiving the underlying tax liability of a broad speed.

Elena Kagan 2:51

Every time a police officer stops me. for a traffic violation. I get angry when he lets somebody else go. So you're suggesting that there is a difference between that and this case where the government is basically saying You owe me something and I am going to g forgive you what you owe me.

J. David Stanzel 3:09

Yes, Your Honor, the Chief Justice's opinion in Enquist took that specific example on uh not with you in mind, presumably, but took that that example on specifically and it said this is the kind of action itself that is inherently a subjective, individualized determination. It's not irrational to pull over one uh traffic uh violator and not another, because that's the nature of of the enforcement action. That is qualitatively different from a tax imposed on one hundred and eighty one homeowners who live next door to each other, and then twelve months later saying, you know, thirty one of you are going to pay thirty times as much in reality as the other one hundred and fifty, even though.

Stephen G. Breyer 3:47

There are twenty different lots, twenty different uh Uh there are I mean when y wh what's your view of of uh uh how the cutoff should work? Do they have to refund all the money? Everybody who in fact ever paid a Barrett law assessment?