Brown v. Davenport (20-826)

argument 20-826

Brown v. Davenport

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What is the central dispute between the Brecht and ETPA standards in Brown v. Davenport?

John G. Roberts 0:00
We'll hear argument first this morning in Case 2826, Brown v. Davenport. Ms. Hammoud?
Unknown 0:11
Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, Davenport's concession that Brecht doesn't always subsume ECPA narrows the dispute here. But the modified Brecht-only approach, he suggests, gives no deference to State Courts' merits adjudications and and absolves habeas petitioners of their burden under 2254-D1. Even if Federal judges relied only on material permissible under ETPA within its Brecht analysis, the inquiry is not over. It is not enough for Federal judges to believe in their own minds that an error substantially influenced the verdict. Before granting relief, they must look through ECPA's highly deferential lens and ask whether all other fair-minded jurists would disagree with the State Court's conclusion.
Unknown 1:04
When Congress enacted ECPA, it did not give federal judges the option of ignoring this crucial deference. That is why, as a precondition to habeas relief, they must apply both, Brecht and ECPA, Failing to do so contravenes this Court's modern habeas jurisprudence, including Ayala, which reaffirmed that ETPA's limitations are distinct from Brecht. The Six Circuits Brecht-only approach failed to defer to the Michigan courts. It also extended this court's holdings, relied on circuit precedent, conducted an independent review of the record, and used extrajudicial social science studies, all of which are prohibited under ETPA. As Judge Thapar said in his en banc dissent, federal judges can't simply ignore ETPA's guardrails whenever they find actual prejudice under Brecht.
Unknown 2:02
We ask this Court to articulate the correct standard and to reverse the Sixth Circuit.
Clarence Thomas 2:12
If you were writing on a clean slate, how would you coordinate Breck and
Unknown 2:18
EDPA? Would you
Clarence Thomas 2:22
say that, for example, that one subsumes the other?
Unknown 2:26
In a case of denial, in a case of denial of relief, applying the other would be a mere formality. As far as this Court found at the State Court's conclusion — So it
Clarence Thomas 2:38
really wouldn't matter if you denied?
Unknown 2:40
If you denied applying the other would not — formally applying it would not matter because it would be a mere formality. However, if a Court were to grant relief — Under either, it must go to the next test. So if they were to grant relief under Brecht, as the Sixth Circuit did, it must apply ETPA as a precondition to the grant of relief. And if a State Court used the wrong standard or it was contrary to this Court's precedent, then if a petitioner prevails under ETPA, Brecht must be applied as well prior to relief, Your Honor. I hope that answers your question.
John G. Roberts 3:22
Thank you. That's how you think it would be applied. But why would a rational legislature set the system up this way? In other words, okay, let's have this inquiry under Brecht. Then let's have this separate inquiry under EDPA. Would somebody just sitting down on a clean slate put that system together?
Unknown 3:49
Well, one, we know that they are different tests. They're distinct tests. They ask different questions. And when Congress enacted 2254D1, that was three years after Brecht. So Brecht could never consider the limitations that ACPA set in place. And Brecht applies whether or not there's a state court determination. So they're not two of the same. Each hold different burdens as well.
John G. Roberts 4:16
Well, if that's really — if they sat down and decided that's what we're going to do, don't you think they would have made it a little clearer than to have us sitting here now and saying, well, how do we reconcile these two things? Because, you know, they're addressed to the same question, I guess, at a broad level. In other words, it would seem to me odd that they would leave it implicit that EDPA and Brecht would coexist.
Unknown 4:46
They have to coexist because when 2254 specifically applies to a State Court's merits determination, Brecht doesn't need a State Court's merits adjudication for it to apply. And we know that this Court said in Fry that on collateral review, whether there's a State Court's merits adjudication or not, Brecht applies on collateral review.

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