Dahda v. United States (17-43)

argument 17-43

Dahda v. United States

Supreme Court of the United States 58 min 5 speakers 8 chapters transcribed 5 days ago official recording ↗
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What is the Federal Wiretap Statute (Title III) and why is it central to the case?

John G. Roberts 0:00
We'll hear argument next in case seventeen forty three, Data versus United States. Mr. Shamagan?
Bradley P. Moss 0:07
Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. The Federal Wiretap Statute, Title III, was enacted fifty years ago in response to national concern over wiretapping and the threat it posed to individual privacy. Title three prohibits wiretapping unless a series of detailed requirements is met. And to ensure compliance with those requirements, Title three directs the suppression of the evidence derived from a wiretap order. When there is an error in obtaining, issuing or executing that order. As is relevant here, Title III directs suppression if a judge issues an order that is insufficient on its face, that is, if the order itself fails to comply with any of Title III's requirements.
Unknown 0:52
Mr. Shan Mugan Uh The e expression insufficient to authorise This order was sufficient to authorise all of the interceptions that were introduced in evidence. The problem was that it authorise more. But that more was never introduced. So I don't understand how you can characterize The the order here. Uh insuff insufficient. It was sufficient, but then it went beyond. And that beyond Was Not operative in this case.
Bradley P. Moss 1:43
Justice Ginsberg, let me go directly to that threshold argument which the government makes for the first time before this court, to the best of our knowledge, the government
Unknown 1:51
You said that, but it seems to me that was exactly what the magistrate judge and the district judge went on.
Bradley P. Moss 1:58
The magistrate judge uh and the district court seemed to conclude that by virtue of the fact that all of the interceptions that were introduced were interceptions that took place within the court's territorial jurisdiction, that there was no problem and that therefore suppression was not required. I don't think that they really grappled with this argument that the government now makes about the meaning of the term insufficient. But let me address the merits of that argument directly, Justice Ginsburg. The government seems to make the argument now that these orders were not insufficient on their face because they were merely overbroad. But I don't think that that's the better reading of the phrase insufficient on its face, either as a matter of plain text or as a matter of the policies that were animating the inclusion of this particular provision.
Bradley P. Moss 2:46
Let me state first what we think insufficient means. We think that an order is insufficient on its face if the failure to comply with the requirements of Title III is evident from the four corners of the order itself. And the government now concedes that under such a standard the orders here would be invalid because Each of the orders here contained jurisdictional provisions that went too far, that went beyond the power of the district court to offer sufficient for what in fact happened, other than Missouri. Leave that out. But, Justice Kennedy, if the statute merely prohibited the introduction of evidence from unlawful interceptions, I might be inclined to agree with you. But of course we know that the suppression provision here does more.
Bradley P. Moss 3:33
It not merely prohibits and requires suppression where there is an unlawful interception. It goes further. And refers to some category of cases where the order is insufficient on its face. Now the government attempts to make this plain language distinction between orders that are overbroad and orders that are somehow otherwise insufficient. But I think if you look at the very dictionary definitions that the government now relies on for the word insufficient, you'll see that those definitions essentially define the terms Insufficient and inadequate and invalid, effectively synonymously.
John G. Roberts 4:08
Well I understand inadequate being the same as insufficient, but I don't understand invalid. I mean if you have a requirement, you know, you must have these four things uh in your in your order and you ha and you fill them out and you've got all four, and then you've got another one that's not required, uh it seems to me that that might be invalid

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