Department of Health and Human Servs. v. Florida (11-398-Tuesday)
argument 11-398-TuesdayDepartment of Health and Human Servs. v. Florida
Supreme Court of the United States
1h 59m
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8 chapters
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What constitutional issue does the Supreme Court face in the Department of Health and Human Services v. Florida case?
We will continue argument this morning in case eleven three hundred ninety eight, the Department of Health and Human Services versus Florida. General Rilly. Mr
Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. The Affordable Care Act addresses a fundamental and enduring problem in our healthcare system and our economy. Insurance has become the predominant means of paying for health care in this country. Uh insurance has become the predominant means of paying for health care in this country. For most Americans, for more than eighty percent of Americans, The insurance system does provide effective access. Excuse me. But for more than forty million Americans. who do not have access to health insurance either through their employer or through government programmes such as Medicare or Medicaid. The system does not work. Those individuals must resort to the individual market
And that market does not provide affordable health insurance. It does not do so because uh because the uh multi billion dollar subsidies that are available for the uh the employer market. are not available in the individual market. It does not do so because ERISA and HIPAA regulations Preclude that preclude uh discrimination against people based on their medical history do not apply in the individual market. That is an economic problem. And it begets another act. Why aren't those problems that the federal government can address directly? They can address it directly, Justice Calia, and they are addressing it directly through through this Act by regulating the means by which health care uh by which health care is purchased.
That is the way this act works. Under the Commerce Clause, What c what Congress has done is to Enact uh reforms of the insurance market directed at the individual insurance market That preclude that preclude discrimination based on pre existing conditions, that require guaranteed issue community rating, and it uses Uh and and the minimum coverage provision is necessary to carry into execution uh those insurance reforms. Can you
create Congress commerce in order to regulate it?
That's not what's going on here, Justice Kennedy, and we're not seeking to defend the law on that basis. In this case the uh the what is being regulated is the method of financing health the purchase of health care. That itself is economic activity with substantial effects on interstate commerce. And
so any any self purchasing, anything I purch uh and you know, if if if I'm in any any market at all, my failure to purchase something in that market subjects me to regulation. No, that's not our position at all,
Justice Scalia. In the health care market, the the health care market is characterised by the fact that, aside from the few groups that Congress chose to exempt from the minimum coverage requirement, those who for religious reasons don't participate, those who are incarcerated, Indian tribes, virtually everybody else is either in that market or will be in that market. And the distinguishing feature of that is that they cannot pe people cannot generally control when they enter that market or what they need when they enter that market.
The same, it seems to me, would be true, say, for the market in emergency services. Police, fire, ambulance, roadside assistance, whatever. You don't know when you're going to need it, you're not sure that you will, but the same is true for health care. You don't know if you're going to need a heart transplant or if you ever will. So there is a market there. To in some extent we all participate in it. So can the government require you to buy a cell phone? Because that would facilitate responding when you need emergency services? You can just dial nine one one no matter where you are?
No, Mr Chief Justice, I think that's different. Uh it's the uh we I don't think we think of that as a market. This is a market. This is market regulation and in addition You have a situation in this market not only where people enter uh uh uh involuntarily as to when they enter, And won't be able to control what they need, what they enter, but when you It seems
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What constitutional issue does the Supreme Court face in the Department of Health and Human Services v. Florida case?
0:01–14:16
2
How do the parties define the “health‑care market” and why does that definition matter?
14:16–28:11
3
Why do the respondents compare the individual insurance market to food and burial‑service markets?
28:11–45:21
4
What arguments are made about the limits of the Commerce Clause under Lopez and other precedents?
45:21–1:00:48
5
How does the government justify the individual mandate as a regulation of commerce rather than a tax?
1:00:48–1:15:18
6
What alternative approaches—such as tax credits or a public health‑care system—are proposed to solve the uninsured problem?
1:15:18–1:30:45
7
How do the parties explain the impact of the mandate on insurance premiums and uncompensated care costs?
1:30:45–1:45:44
8
What is the final position of each side on whether Congress can compel individuals to purchase health insurance?
1:45:44–2:00:07