Mims v. Arrow Financial Services, LLC (10-1195)
argument 10-1195Mims v. Arrow Financial Services, LLC
Supreme Court of the United States
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What is the Federal Question Jurisdiction statute and how does it apply to the TCPA case?
We'll hear an argument next this morning in Case 10-1195, MIMS v. Arrow Financial
Services.
Mr. Nelson.
Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, the Federal Question Jurisdiction Statute 28 U.S.C. Section 1331 broadly grants Federal courts jurisdiction over all actions arising under Federal law unless Congress has provided other words. That grant of jurisdiction encompasses rights of action that are created and governed by substantive Federal law. The Telephone Consumer Protection Act sets forth such a right of action. It provides detailed substantive standards and it grants a private right of action to recover for their violation. The TCPA permits that action to be filed in a State Court if State Court allows such actions, but it says nothing one way or another about whether the action may also be filed in Federal Court.
Mr. Nelson, do you think that there is a clear statement rule that applies when Congress attempts to divest a federal court of jurisdiction over claims of this kind?
Well, sometimes the Court has talked about clear statement rules in terms like Congress must make unmistakably plain. I'm not sure it rises to that level, but what the Court has said is that jurisdiction granted by statute exists unless Congress has affirmatively displaced it and that the Court is unwilling to defeat jurisdiction by mere implication. So I think it may be something a little less than what this Court has sometimes referred to as a clear statement rule, but it is a requirement that Congress act. Do you have anything more than implication here? No, there's not even implication here, Justice Scalia. There's really nothing at all.
You'd have the same private right of action that could be brought in state court without subsection 5 at all, right?
I think that's very likely, Your Honor. I mean, under Taflin and going back to over a century ago in Claflin, there's a presumption that that concurrent jurisdiction over a transitory cause of action created by Federal law exists in State courts. But as the Court pointed out in Taflin, that presumption has sometimes, as in the antitrust cases, been found to have been displaced by implication from Federal policy.
MR. What is the basis? You assert that you could bring this — bring a Federal cause of action in Federal Court. Pardon me? You think that you can bring the federal cause of action in federal court? Yes. What is — what is the basis for — putting aside jurisdiction, what is the basis for the federal cause of action? Oh, you
mean the existence of the cause of
action? Yes.
Yeah. I mean, the — you know, what this Court has — has, I think — said in its interpretation of statutes is that where a statute creates a right of recovery from A to B in a court under circumstances Y, that is a right of action.
MR. Well, we said that 40 years ago. More recently, we've said that Congress must be fairly express in creating a private cause of action. My concern is if you put it against that context that our cases require fairly direct evidence, express evidence that Congress meant to give a private right of action. In that context, the existence of an express State cause of action or Federal cause of action that can only be brought in State court The implication that there isn't one that can be brought on its own in Federal Court is fairly strong.
MR. Well, I think that's not correct. I think, Your Honor, that that is actually confusing the concept of whether there's a right of action, which is a substantive right of recovery that can be pursued in a Court, and the question of jurisdiction, which is in what Court may that be brought.
MR. Well, that — I understand that proposition. Assuming that distinction is correct and that there is no freestanding Federal cause of Well, what good does having federal jurisdiction give you?
Well
— Because I take it that at that point, everybody can immediately — defendants can remove — cross that off. What benefit do you have if, as soon as you file your action, everybody says, congratulations, you have federal jurisdiction and you're kicked out of court because you have no cause of action?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the Federal Question Jurisdiction statute and how does it apply to the TCPA case?
0:01–7:03
2
How does the Court interpret the “clear‑statement” rule when Congress may divest jurisdiction?
7:03–13:49
3
Does the TCPA create a private right of action that can be filed in State court, Federal court, or both?
13:49–21:54
4
Can plaintiffs use diversity jurisdiction to bring TCPA claims in Federal court?
21:54–29:32
5
What does the phrase “if otherwise permitted” mean for the scope of the TCPA cause of action?
29:32–37:31
6
Why do the Justices describe the TCPA provision as “odd” and how does that affect statutory construction?
37:31–44:04
7
What evidence of congressional intent supports limiting TCPA claims to State courts?
44:04–50:58
8
What is the Court’s ultimate conclusion on whether federal courts have jurisdiction over the TCPA claim?
50:58–1:00:47