Sebelius v. Auburn Regional Medical Center (11-1231)

argument 11-1231

Sebelius v. Auburn Regional Medical Center

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What is the statutory 180‑day limitation for Medicare provider appeals and why does it matter?

John G. Roberts 0:02
We'll hear argument first this morning in case eleven twelve thirty one, Sibelius versus Auburn Regional Medical Centre. Mr Needler.
Unknown 0:10
Mr Chief Justice, and may it please the court. Under Part A of the Medicare program, the Federal Government pays out more than $230 billion annually to more than 30,000 institutional providers, including more than 6,000 hospitals. The total amount to which each of these providers is entitled is determined by a fiscal intermediary on the basis of a cost report. The statute provides that a provider may obtain a hearing before the provider reimbursement review board only if he uh uh appeals the intermediary's determination with a hundred within one hundred and eighty days. For the almost forty years of the existence of the provider reimbursement review board, the secretary, pursuant to her broad rulemaking authority,
Unknown 0:54
has prohibited the board from extending that period and instead required dismissal of the appeal, except as specifically provided in the Secretary's own regulations.
John G. Roberts 1:04
Mr. Needler, there is a little bit of at least facial incongruity in your position. Congress sets in place the one hundred and eighty day limit, and you say, oh that we can go beyond that. The secretary puts in the three year limit and you say, That's it. You know, that's the dead drop off. I would have thought what Congress says is entitled to greater weight uh than what the Secretary says.
Unknown 1:26
Well uh the the 180 day limitation here is not a limitation applied to suits filed in court, in w in which the court is the relevant tribunal and the court has has itself construed the statutes regulating access to the courts or the appellate courts as a matter of matter of internal judicial administration. This deadline um governs an appeal within the Department of Health and Human Services, and that is something that Congress has delegated the responsibility to the Secretary to construe the relevant statutes and to adopt the relevant regulations pursuant to her broad rule making authority. So in in this setting it is the board that is the relevant tribunal and the rules governing the board's jurisdiction are established.
Elena Kagan 2:11
Excuse me. You don't mention Union Pacific in your brief. How can you be calling what you're doing setting your jurisdictional limits? Didn't we say in Union Pacific that agencies can't do that? You can't define your own jurisdiction? Now I you may or may not be able to establish claim processing rules. That I think is a totally different question. But why do you continue to use it as jurisdictional language?
Unknown 2:38
Well I d I i I was responding to uh first of all, the the uh Secretary's regulations have from the outset referred to these limitations as limitations on the board's uh jurisdiction. This is uh this is set forth in the in the regulations promulgated in the
Elena Kagan 2:54
In that respect I think the amikai is right. You can't i if they're jurisdictional, we've clearly said that equitable tolling doesn't apply under any circumstance.
Unknown 3:03
Right. And we and we clearly believe that equitable tolling does not apply. That would be fundamentally inconsistent. So what is
Elena Kagan 3:09
good cause if not some form of equitable tolling?
Unknown 3:12
Uh There is nothing incompatible between an a good cause extent a limited good cause extension and a jurisdictional rule. For example, in in the uh several cases that this court has considered uh Uh finding uh provisions to be jurisdictional, the time for taking an appeal and the time for petitioning for Sir Surari are both jurisdictional, but both allow ex extensions for good cause. In fact, this court's decision in bowls involved the extension for good cause. So the question here for the Secretary and again this is just a narrow question of good cause that in no way suggests that equitable tolling would be would be permitted. The narrow question is whether the Secretary permissibly construed the statute to allow a comparable good cause exception where where something akin to an act of God would prevent the provider from actually appealing within the requisite period of time, just like a district court can extend the appeal period for

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