Spokeo, Inc. v. Robins (13-1339)
argument 13-1339Spokeo, Inc. v. Robins
Supreme Court of the United States
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What is the Supreme Court’s test for injury‑in‑fact standing in Spokeo v. Robins?
We'll hear argument next today in Case 13-1339, Spokio v. Robbins. Mr. Pincus?
MR. Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. This Court has said that the irreducible constitutional minimum for standing is injury in fact, that the plaintiff suffered actual or imminent tangible harm. In Lujan, the Court said that Congress may elevate to the status of legally cognizable injuries concrete de facto injuries that were previously inadequate in law. Here, the Ninth Circuit held that there's no need for any de facto injury. A statutory violation that in some general sense relates to the plaintiff is all that's necessary, even though it has no tangible consequences.
Let's say I agree with you that there needs to be a concrete injury, that Congress needs to have recognized something that looks like a concrete injury. But why isn't that exactly what Congress did here? So let me just frame it in a hypothetical. Suppose that there's just a statute. It's a little bit of a simpler statute, and you can argue with me or tell me why it might or might not be different, but I just want to understand your position. Suppose that there's a statute that just says that one of these credit reporting agencies shall not disseminate inaccurate information about people, or shall not do it willfully or negligently or what have you, but shall not disseminate inaccurate information about people.
And then there's a cause of action that says if they disseminate inaccurate information in a credit report about you, you can sue. All right? Is that enough of a concrete injury for you?
No, it's not, for three reasons, Your Honor. And let me preface my response by saying that, of course, that isn't the case with respect to three of the claims in this case, which don't have anything to do with
inaccuracy. Okay, but let me just focus on what seems to be the gravamen of the claim. And why isn't the dissemination of false information about you in a credit report, why isn't that, why isn't it perfectly sufficient if Congress says that's a concrete injury?
Well, I guess as a threshold matter, I think what the Court has said in other contexts is that Congress should clearly say that it is going beyond the tangible injuries that this Court has defined. The Court has had a clear statement rule. And so another difference between your hypothetical — I'm not sure whether your hypothetical
has
Congress clearly saying, and by the way, we are creating a cause of action for people who otherwise couldn't get into court.
I'm sorry —
Let me start, but maybe I can answer
your question this way. You said that there were reasons why that was not a concrete injury. Yes. The dissemination of false information about a particular person. Why? Because to me, I'll just say, seems like a concrete injury to me. Well, first of all — I mean, if somebody did it to me, I'd feel harmed. And I think that if you went out on the street and you did a survey, most people would feel harmed. Most people would feel as though they had some interest that had been invaded — And Congress recognized that, thought it was a significant problem, passed a statute to deal with that problem. First of all, the
common law tradition, which the Court has looked to, did not say that the dissemination of any false statement was an injury. To prove
defamation — That's quite right. It's not completely in the common law tradition, but we've said many times that Congress gets to look beyond the common law tradition and gets to identify — real-world problems out there in the world, harming people in real-world ways, and that, it seems, is what Congress did here.
Well, let me answer your question in two ways. I want to explain why it isn't, and then I also want to explain why it's not what Congress did here. So why it isn't, there are places that the Court has looked for guides. One is the common law. Other kinds of torts, for example, in the restatement
— Can you explain the common law versus the legislature? So if we have some historic practice where damages are awarded to someone who has no out-of-pocket loss, if the common law says so, it's okay.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the Supreme Court’s test for injury‑in‑fact standing in Spokeo v. Robins?
0:01–8:18
2
How do the parties use hypothetical statutes to argue whether false information is a concrete injury?
8:18–16:37
3
Why does the Court examine whether Congress clearly identified a concrete harm in the Fair Credit Reporting Act?
16:37–25:05
4
What role do common‑law concepts like defamation and property rights play in the standing analysis?
25:05–32:05
5
How does the discussion address the distinction between procedural violations and actual harm?
32:05–39:10
6
Why is the definition of a “particularized” and “concrete” injury crucial for class‑certification?
39:10–45:29
7
What are the implications of the parties’ hypothetical examples involving telephone numbers and statutory damages?
45:29–54:04
8
How does the Court’s reasoning on standing affect the final outcome of Spokeo v. Robins?
54:04–1:01:08