Sturgeon v. Frost (17-949)
argument 17-949Sturgeon v. Frost
Supreme Court of the United States
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8 chapters
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What is the central dispute over ANILCA’s land‑and‑water exclusions in Sturgeon v. Frost?
We'll hear argument first this morning in case seventeen nine forty nine, Sturgeon versus Frost. Mr Findley.
Thank you. Mr Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. Mr Sturgeon is asking that this Court restore the balance that Congress struck when enacting a Nilca. Anilke is unique. and represents a series of bargains and compromises. A centerpiece of this balancing was ensuring that the over eighteen million acres of non public lands and waters about to be surrounded by the New Anilka Parks and Preserves would not be subject to a new array of federal regulation. Section one hundred three C of the statute preserve the status of these non public lands and waters by excluding them from Enilka's parks and preserves and specifically exempting them from park management regulation.
I'm sorry, but put statutory duties on the government, on the Park Service. So for example, uh the statue expands the Glacier Bay National Monument. It says that the monument shall be managed for the following purposes, among others. to protect a segment of the Al Sek River, fish and wildlife habitats and migration routes. and a portion of a fair weather range. Or take another example. Anelka creates the Kobik Valley National Park which it says shall be managed for the following purposes. Among others to keep it in an undeveloped state. So the agency has a statutory duty to manage these parks for the purpose of maintaining the Quebec River. the Alaska River and other rivers. If The park service can't do what you say, any regulation on these rivers.
How can the Secretary fulfil the statutory duties and under an elco? unless it is under its organic powers.
Anilka has this Court recognized in the first decision um specifically invoked the organic act and said these parks shall be managed in accord of the organic act and in accord with the provisions of INILCA. And this Court recognized that ANILCA carries many provisions specifically modifying the Park Services Organic Act authority, Section one hundred three C being one of them. To your question, how can the Park Service fulfill its duties? And understanding Nilca, it's understanding the debate about Nilca was very important what land went into conservation system units, but it was equally important what land did not get included within conservation system units. ANILCA was not just a park enabling statute.
As this course recognized in AMICO when it was first addressed in Ilka, it was resolving multiple land use disputes within Alaska.
You haven't answered my question. under your theory the state manages all navigable waters. between federal lands or between state lands. And I mean not waters, but lands in terms of the territorial bands. Um How does the Park Service engage in its statutory obligations if it can't do what you say.
The Park Service for all those purposes it can regulate submerged lands and waters where title did not pass to the state at statehood. It can manage public waters, it can manage any non navigable waters.
There's no public waters. Under your theory. All the waters belong to the state.
Only navigable waters where the title of the submerged lands um passes. Right.
So what you're saying is that a good portion of the Act with all of the preservations of the rivers that the Act imposes. upon the Park Service. It cannot do any of that work.
It cannot do that work on any of the specific navigable waters, but it can protect the watershed. The Yukon Charlie is a very good example of that. The Yukon Charlie, again, think of the balancing of vanilica that this court recognized. Some of its conservation purposes, it is equally important to balance the economic needs of the state of Alaska. The Yukon Charlie met goal number one by putting one point seven million acres of land into the preserve to protect the
Does it make any
difference that um a park is designated as a wild and scenic river?
Uh no it does not, Your Honor. Uh the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act was even specifically amended by Anilka um to make sure it wasn't covering state land that goes in the other side of the river.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the central dispute over ANILCA’s land‑and‑water exclusions in Sturgeon v. Frost?
0:00–7:27
2
How does the Park Service’s statutory duty to manage parks conflict with the “non‑public lands” carve‑out?
7:27–14:20
3
Why does the Court ask whether the Park Service can fulfill its duties without title to Alaska’s navigable waters?
14:20–21:22
4
What does the word “solely” in §103 C mean for regulations that apply only to public lands?
21:22–29:56
5
How does the 1976 boating‑and‑water activities statute affect the Park Service’s authority in Alaska?
29:56–37:01
6
Does the Submerged Lands Act give Alaska title to waters, limiting federal regulation?
37:01–44:39
7
What are the implications of the Katie John reserved‑water‑rights decisions for this case?
44:39–52:49
8
How does the Court balance federal park authority with Alaska’s sovereignty and subsistence needs in its final ruling?
52:49–1:00:46