Taniguchi v. Kan Pacific Saipan, Ltd. (10-1472)
argument 10-1472Taniguchi v. Kan Pacific Saipan, Ltd.
Supreme Court of the United States
57 min
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8 chapters
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What is the central statutory question about interpreter services in 28 U.S.C. § 1920‑6?
We'll hear argument next in Case 10-1472, Kuichi Taniguchi v. Pan Pacific Saipan
Limited. Mr. Freed. Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, our brief lists six categories of authorities demonstrating that the work of an interpreter under 28 U.S.C. Section 1920, Paragraph 6, is limited to spoken communication. Primary among these is the Court Interpreters Act itself, whose central provisions afford simultaneous or consecutive spoken interpreter services. When the
same — JUSTICE KAGAN. Could I make sure that I understand the extent of your argument? Are you saying that it's interpretation, oral interpretation, just in the courtroom?
MR. Well, Justice Sotomayor, I think that it's a — that there is a textual ambiguity in the statute about the extent of covered spoken interpreter services. One could argue it either way, and we don't — I'm happy to proceed under either assumption. But what's clear is that however far it extends within the area of spoken interpretation, document translation is
— I have to say that if you read it the way you do, then what you're suggesting is that for appointed experts, they only get recompense for the time they're testifying? Because that's the only time they spend in court? Court-appointed experts, Your Honor? Yes.
I think that the legislative history of that seems to indicate that that provision was actually — inserted into 1920.6 for a separate housekeeping reason, because it paralleled Rule 706 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, which was a preexisting rule addressing court-appointed experts, and simply put it into the enumeration. But court experts
get paid for their prep work.
Yes, Your Honor. I think that that may well be the case. But I think that the —
Could I — one further question? Of course. I take all your arguments, but I read the Common Dictionary, and there's no question that the primary meaning of interpreter is interpretation of oral languages. But the dictionary is broad enough to include translation work as well. Given that the courts for 70 years have been awarding most of them except for, I think, the seventh year, Virtually every court over a 70-year period has been awarding translation fees as authorized. Why shouldn't that be enough for us? Meaning if the dictionary term is broad enough, and that's what the courts have been doing and the world hasn't crashed, despite one case where a large amount was given, your adversary points to the fact that most of the translation fees tend to be fairly reasonable.
Why should we muck with what works?
MR. Well,
Your Honor, I think that — JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR I think I'm drawing from ways that my colleague next to me usually asks a question.
Your Honor, I think that the primary reason why the Court should not adopt that is because it's inconsistent with the text.
It's wrong, is your
answer, right? Yes, Your Honor. And it's also worth noting that none of the courts of appeals who have adopted this construction of 1920.6 have considered or addressed our primary arguments in this case. They haven't addressed the uniform professional literature addressing this topic, the dictionaries in their aggregate the Administrative Office's interpretation of this statute, the consistent congressional distinction between written translation and spoken interpretation that runs throughout the Code.
JUSTICE KAGAN. So just out of curiosity, why do you think that all these courts just took for granted the opposite reading?
MR. Well, Your Honor, I'm not sure that I have a good answer to that. They weren't presented with some of these arguments and didn't have the opportunity to consider them.
Perhaps it was Dr. Johnson's answer when a lady pointed out an error in his dictionary, and his answer was, stupidity, madam, sheer stupidity.
I think, Your Honor, that Camp Pacific disputes very little of our central argument. There
are lots of regions of the country, Puerto Rico, for example. where there are vast numbers of documents that have to be translated if you go into federal court, not necessarily in the Commonwealth courts.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the central statutory question about interpreter services in 28 U.S.C. § 1920‑6?
0:01–8:26
2
How do the parties argue whether the term “interpreter” includes written translation?
8:26–15:09
3
What dictionary definitions and common‑usage evidence are presented to support each meaning?
15:09–21:42
4
How does legislative history influence the interpretation of the Court Interpreters Act?
21:42–28:59
5
What role do prior circuit decisions and the 1978 amendment play in the dispute?
28:59–36:23
6
How do the parties address the policy concerns of cost, deterrence, and “site translation”?
36:23–43:24
7
What are the arguments about the practicality of taxing document‑translation costs?
43:24–52:15
8
What conclusions and final points do the counsel make before the Court’s decision?
52:15–57:40