United States Forest Service v. Cowpasture River Preservation Ass'n (18-1584)

argument 18-1584

United States Forest Service v. Cowpasture River Preservation Ass'n

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What is the central legal issue in United States Forest Service v. Cowpasture River Preservation Association?

John G. Roberts 0:00
We'll hear argument first this morning, case eighteen fifteen, eighty four. United States Forest Service versus Cow Pasture River Preservation Association and the Consolidated Case. Mr Yang.
Unknown 0:13
Mr. Chief Justice, it may please the Court. The issue in this case is whether the Trails Act converts all Federal, State, and Private Lands traversed by the Appalachian Trail into lands administered by the Park Service. It does not. The Act simply charges the Secretary of the Interior with overall administration of a trail. It repeatedly distinguishes between the agency administering the trail and the land managing agencies administering the land. Park Service thus coordinates or agencies and organizations responsible for their own segments of the trail and performs certain trail ride responsibilities. But the land managing agencies ultimately take care of the trail on their lands. If a tree falls on forest lands over the trail, it's the Forest Service that's responsible for it.
Unknown 0:57
You don't call the nine Park Service employees at Harper's Ferry and ask them to come out and fix the tree. Respondents' theory is inconsistent with the Act and would dramatically change the national trail system. Respondents, for instance, argue that the trail is land and it's administered by the Park Service. So their position is that the entire trail is federally administered a federally administered area of land. But if you look at page 14a, this is Section 1246H1. It requires that the Secretary shall encourage states to operate, develop, and maintain portions of such trails trails, located outside the boundaries of federally administrated areas. If they're right, there is no thing, nothing outside the trail outside the federally administrative areas, because the trail is a federally administered area.
Unknown 1:45
Their reading cannot be right. Second, it would also dramatically increase the tr dramatically change the trail system by transferring vast amounts of land into the National Park Service, which the park system which the Park Service administers and regulates to conserve the natural environment. Not only would TVA's two hydroelectric dams be put into the system, nearly a thousand miles of the Forest Service lands, more than a dozen towns, including Hanover, New Hampshire, and Dartmouth College, through which the Pelt crosses straight through, numerous bridges over rivers, including the bridge over the Hudson near West Point, over 600 roads, 100 interstates and other highways. And until this case, no one has ever thought that such all lands and waters under the trails were controlled.
Unknown 2:27
Okay. Yeah, may I ask you a preliminary question. This issue of the Mineral Leasing Act is the third of the issues at the Fourth Circuit. dealt with and it was the one to which they devoted the least number of pages. This case, in any event, am I right, is going back for reconsideration. of the environmental consequences going back under the Forest Management Act and the National Um NEPA. Correct. D. Since those reviews will be going on. Is there the potential that the Mineral Releasing Act question will be moot? Because the decision might be That under that legislation, the environmental legislation, this uh crossing over the the trail is impermissible. Yeah. It the case that issue is not moot now. It could potentially be moot, but that is true about any interloc any interlocutory case that this c the court takes up.
Unknown 3:42
Things can change that res that make the issue before the court no longer necessary at the end of the day. But the court already considered that at the cert stage. The reason that this is an important issue is because if the trail cannot be uh the right of it cannot cross six hundred feet under the trail and come in and out, not on park service or forest service properly, but on private land, then the whole enterprise is done. We're done. They have to start over. So that is an important and nationally significant issue that the court granted cert on. So that's why we're here. But then what do we make um the line in the reply brief that says

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