United States v. Bryant (15-420)
argument 15-420United States v. Bryant
Supreme Court of the United States
43 min
4 speakers
8 chapters
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What constitutional issue does the Court address regarding tribal court convictions in United States v. Bryant?
We'll hear argument first this morning in case fifteen four twenty, United States versus Bryant. Ms. Prelegard?
Mr Chief Justice, and may it please the Court. Congress enacted Section one hundred seventeen in response to the epidemic of domestic violence in Indian country. The Ninth Circuit was wrong to strike down the statute as applied to offenders like respondent, who have abused and battered their intimate partners again and again, but whose prior tribal court misdemeanor convictions were uncounseled and resulted in a sentence of imprisonment. The Ninth Circuit's constitutional analysis disconnects the validity of the underlying prior convictions from the permissibility of relying on those convictions to prove the defendant's recidivist status if he commits additional criminal conduct, and that runs counter to this court's precedence.
In Nichols versus United States, this court held that a conviction that was uncounseled, but was valid at the time it was obtained remains valid when it's used in a subsequent prosecution to classify the defendant as a recidivist. As I understand the court's logic in that opinion, the rationale was that in the absence of an actual sixth amendment violation in the underlying proceeding, there's no proceeding in which the defendant had but was denied a right to counsel. He didn't he has a right to counsel in the subsequent federal prosecution and here respondent uh had that right and it was respected. He was he was represented by appointed counsel at every critical stage. But when a defendant doesn't have a right to counsel in the prior proceedings that resulted in that conviction, then there's no defect, no constitutional defect in those underlying convictions that can possibly be carried over or exacerbated through reliance on those convictions in the subsequent proceedings.
Now the Ninth Circuit reasoned and respondents arguing here that that might apply when the conviction is is valid under the court's rationale in Scott. There, of course, the court held that there's no right to appointed counsel in a proceeding that doesn't result in imprisonment. And respondent urges the court to limit Nichols to that situation where you have a defendant who who wasn't imprisoned in the prior proceeding. But I don't think that makes sense as a matter of the logic under this court's decision in in Nichols, nor do I think it makes sense as a matter of practical reality. Here, for example, respondents says that if only his tribal court had sentenced him to a fine rather than to imprisonment, there would be no constitutional infirmity with relying on those convictions in his Section one hundred and seventeen prosecution.
But I can't fathom why it is that the tribal court sentencing determination would make any difference with respect to the validity of those convictions or the permissibility of using them to identify the defendant as among those class of individuals who are properly.
Suppose you had a conviction from a foreign country. Um Would would that could that be used for this purpose? Assuming the statute allowed it.
I don't think that there would be any Sixth Amendment problem if Congress chose to be able to do that. I think it would I think that it would raise a more serious due process issue, but I think that there are risks. Why
more serious? Because I think
Well I think that that it would be incumbent on a defendant in that situation to try to come forward and make a showing that that foreign conviction was obtained in a proceeding that wasn't fundamentally fair. Tribal courts I think are are fundamentally different, Justice. Would
that showing be uh attempted in a case like this?
In a section one hundv prosecution, so that raises the question whether there should be a right to have a collateral challenge to a particular conviction.
I'm assuming the statute m was amended.
That's correct. So so just to clarify it's true, Justice Ginsburg, that section one hundred seventeen doesn't cover foreign convictions, and I understood Justice Kennedy to be asking whether there would be a constitutional problem if it did.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What constitutional issue does the Court address regarding tribal court convictions in United States v. Bryant?
0:00–6:14
2
How does the Ninth Circuit’s analysis of prior convictions differ from the Supreme Court’s precedent in Nichols?
6:14–12:36
3
Why does the Court consider the Sixth Amendment right to counsel irrelevant for uncounseled misdemeanor convictions?
12:36–18:49
4
What role does the Indian Civil Rights Act play in determining the reliability of tribal convictions?
18:49–24:47
5
How would the case change if the prior convictions were foreign rather than tribal?
24:47–29:10
6
Why does the Court distinguish between using prior convictions as an element of a crime versus a sentencing enhancement?
29:10–32:50
7
What is the Court’s view on collateral challenges to tribal convictions under due‑process and the Sixth Amendment?
32:50–37:58
8
What conclusion does the Court reach on whether to reverse the Ninth Circuit’s decision in United States v. Bryant?
37:58–43:58