WesternGeco LLC v. ION Geophysical Corp. (16-1011)
argument 16-1011WesternGeco LLC v. ION Geophysical Corp.
Supreme Court of the United States
1h 1m
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8 chapters
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What is the purpose of Section 271 F and how does it change the patent‑infringement landscape?
We'll hear argument next uh in case sixteen ten eleven, Western gecko versus Ion geophysical. Mr. Clement. Mr Chief Justice, and may it please the court. Congress enacted Section 271 F to address this Court's decision in Deep South and to prohibit a specific domestic act of infringement with foreseeable foreign consequences. Congress targeted a specific domestic act, the supply of components from the United States, with a particular intent that the components be combined abroad in a way that if it happened in the United States, would constitute infringement. Congress provided a cause of action for the domestic infringement and provided a damages remedy that guaranteed the victim of the infringement damages adequate to compensate for the infringement.
The plain text of the Patent Act therefore gives the victim of Section two hundred and seventy one F infringement an entitlement to adequate damages, including lost profits, and the presumption against extraterritoriality raises no obstacle to that common sense result. There's no case of this court that applies the presumption to a damages provision, and there's no case of this court that applies the presumption in a case of domestic injury caused by domestic consequence uh conduct, rather.
There's this one feature of this it's I mean it's w Congress in T two seventy one F wanted the infringer to be liable and that's that's there's no doubt about that. But all of the activity occurs not only does the activity occur abroad. Sweeping the high seas. But The one who is causing the injury is not the infringer, it's the customer of the infringer. Do we have another situation like that where where you can collect from the infringer on the basis of activity by the customer.
We we do, Justice Ginsburg. The the general rule in a domestic context is that you can sue the party who is guilty of contributory infringement and get lost profits for what they did, the foreseeable consequences what they did, even if that's primarily damages that are caused by their downstream direct infringement. So I think it's helpful actually to think about if this whole case happened on Lake Michigan instead of on the high seas, we could sue Ion, and only Ion, not its customers who practiced the patent on Lake Michigan, and we could recover our lost profits damages. Now, it is true that in the domestic case, the parties, Ion's customers who are practicing the patent on Lake Michigan would also be guilty of direct infringement.
And that is one difference. But that is exactly the difference that Congress intended with Section 271F. They specifically created a form of either contributory or inducement liability, understanding that what we Was being induced was the combination of components outside the United States in a way that would constitute infringement in the United States. Now, I do think it's important to recognize, though, that what is the infringing conduct is what iron does in the United States. What the foreign combiners of the components do on the high seas is not infringement of a U.S. patent at all, which is why I think that's a good thing. I think the presumption against extraterritoriality is really a misfit here.
And you have to resort to the general principle, which is in U.S. law, if somebody is injured domestically by domestic conduct, there's no rule that says that in order to calculate the compensatory damages to make them whole, if you have to include in your calculations some foreign thing, uh there's no rule against that. If I run over a French citizen citizen on my way to court this morning, I can't say, well, I don't have to pay your hospital bills if they're incurred in France, because that would be foreign and the presumption against extraterritoriality. reality.
Mr. Clement though, um um the the the difference I wonder, and I I I don't know but I wonder might be this, that uh uh as Justice Ginsburg indicated under two seventy one F Fine, you get royalties um because it's as if the the the bits were manufactured here. Um But you don't have a a a monopoly, a lawful monopoly to use this technology abroad.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of Section 271 F and how does it change the patent‑infringement landscape?
0:00–7:56
2
How does the Court distinguish between domestic infringement and foreign combinations for damages?
7:56–14:53
3
Why does the argument focus on lost‑profits versus reasonable‑royalty damages?
14:53–22:46
4
What role does the presumption against extraterritoriality play in patent‑damage awards?
22:46–30:12
5
How do the parties use proximate‑cause and causation doctrines to support their positions?
30:12–38:19
6
What do the hypothetical “Lake Michigan vs. high seas” examples illustrate about liability?
38:19–45:34
7
How might foreign patent laws and international comity affect the outcome of this case?
45:34–54:13
8
What is the final request to the Supreme Court and the key takeaways for future patent cases?
54:13–1:01:22