Cross-code immorality, Lachie Neale's strike, crowd behaviour - Andrew Voss | Across the Divide! (22.09.26)
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Why does the AFL claim the rugby league is a second‑class code?
Look, the AFL have always looked down their nose at rugby league. They treat us as second-class citizens. It's obvious we've got them rattled. And the figures and the facts speak for themselves.
We measure ourselves on traditional metrics like people turning up to games, people watching, how long they watch for.
They can huff, they can puff, but they won't blow our house down. It's solid brick. We're going to get stronger and we're going to take some of their
fans. Vossi together again, hey? Here
we are. Can we be as... Can't be as interesting as last week, can it? But I must say, in watching the NFL, I just made the comment before the news, the Rams fans seem pretty happy with their view today. No-one's sitting at ground level and they seem closer to the action. They seem far more engaged. No, just that aside, did I miss anything with the Brownlow medal last night? Obviously, it's a massive, massive win to Nick Dacos and 23 years of age. The world is his oyster. But as an event, as a television product or something, have I missed anything?
So I was there last night, and it's one of the best counts I've been to, which was a high bar because it was a total foregone conclusion, but it managed to harness the energy of Winx and Black Caviar. We're all there cheering for one result, and the more he polled, the happier everyone was, and he
built his
lead and was home with three to go. Yeah. Sometimes it's about a competition and sometimes it's about a coronation. And a coronation has a pretty rich place in sport.
Well, across there, let's say we just put rugby league and AFL and I go back to one of the greatest things that happened was the drawn grand finals. We go all the way back to the 70s. Suddenly you have your first drawn grand final. We have our first drawn grand final. I wonder whether the son of a great winning the Brownlow medal gets repeated in the Dalliams next week for the rugby league and the son of, not that Ivan Cleary is quite great, but Ivan Cleary achieved plenty in his career. Does the son of the father also win the feature award in the NRL? Wouldn't that be a little bit of
synergy? You're right. It's uncanny how often there are echoes across our codes. So it is worth... Here's... Nick Dacos is in his fifth year. He's played 118-odd games. He's talking about on stage. He's got this lovely reference to when I was young. Oh, mate,
you're still young. Hello
to the 23-year-old on stage. He has won the lot inside five years, and he stands at the summit of our code, which is I always marvel at the capacity of the game to regenerate its talent, and this is true in every sport.
What made Nick Daicos win the Brownlow Medal at just 23?
For it to regenerate so quickly here and have a 23-year-old now the undisputed number one player in the game is pretty phenomenal. And the fact that he carries the name of one of the most fondly thought of players. So... Peter Dacos, he was a marvel. He was a genius. He got the ball to bend in ways that had never been done before. Phenomenally popular. And then, well, he has two sons who play and one is just, I mean, to be better than the father, it's breathtaking.
As I say, it's not quite apples with apples with respect to Ivan Cleary comparing the Nathan situation with his dad. But where we could have something is a first time, premier. Now, Dolphins are in that category and, you know, a newbie, a new team, relatively speaking. First time ever in the finals, not just going for a premiership. They are a massive chance. Friday night, packed house at Suncorp, Dolphins are Queensland's team. And I know you can say, well, there's two ways of synergy. You could have a Brisbane team and a Queensland rugby league team winning the comp, but I'm going to go with the first premiership line. Who do you think... Some people are telling me Brisbane's across the line.
I
wouldn't fall into that.
No. So can I just, first things first with the Dolphins. So this matters across code. So this is year four. Yeah. Yeah. We're all expanding at the moment. Yep. Yep. So to be in preliminary finals in year four, outstanding. And I think to be studied a little bit.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why does the AFL claim the rugby league is a second‑class code?
0:05–2:42
2
What made Nick Daicos win the Brownlow Medal at just 23?
2:42–4:52
3
How could the Dolphins become a finals contender in just four years?
4:52–7:04
4
What are the implications of Lachie Neale’s strike on the AFL season?
7:04–9:33
5
Should the AFL suspend a player for off‑field misconduct before a grand final?
9:33–11:13
6
How can leagues stop fans from throwing objects at officials and players?
11:13–13:37
7
Is Peter Volandis the right person to lead the NRL’s executive chair?
13:37–16:57
8
What would be the ultimate grand‑final matchup – Dolphins vs Penrith or Fremantle vs Brisbane?
16:57–17:40
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