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But, you know, it definitely was a disconnect to get support from the city seeing you from a place they never heard before.

Mm-hmm.

You know, and that took a while.

But just like anything, I had to show and prove.

You know, and I respect that because, you know, just like anything that's brought to us brand new, it's like, it's hard to say.

You got to show, when you talk about this rap shit, you know, this is something that you got to show and prove.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

It don't, you know, and it took some time because due to the lack of recognition.

But, you know, I put the work in.

Right.

When did you feel that shift?

Because I...

As a New Yorker, I can always be objective.

Upstate is dominating us and it's not even remotely close.

When did you feel that shift happening where Upstate started to kind of be the identity of New York Sound over New York City?

Like, I seen it start getting heavy around, like, 2019, 2020.

Yeah.

I seen, like, okay, you know, they starting to really, you know, pay some attention.

But with the Griselda, it was like, all right, you know, that was the start.