Aaron Cariotti

And again, at the risk of sermonizing, we can just go back to that paradigmatic example of Christ's crucifixion, the centerpiece of which is he's there hanging on the cross, being tortured in the most gruesome way that the Romans could have devised. And he's praying for his persecutors. He's saying, Father, forgive them for they know not Christ.

And again, at the risk of sermonizing, we can just go back to that paradigmatic example of Christ's crucifixion, the centerpiece of which is he's there hanging on the cross, being tortured in the most gruesome way that the Romans could have devised. And he's praying for his persecutors. He's saying, Father, forgive them for they know not Christ.

what they do, that perfect act of love and forgiveness, even for those who were harming him in the most egregious and unjust possible way in that moment. So, yeah, we could talk about love, but how do you actually make that real? Well, examine your life, examine your interior dispositions and ask yourself, okay, who's hurt me? Who has wronged me?

what they do, that perfect act of love and forgiveness, even for those who were harming him in the most egregious and unjust possible way in that moment. So, yeah, we could talk about love, but how do you actually make that real? Well, examine your life, examine your interior dispositions and ask yourself, okay, who's hurt me? Who has wronged me?

And then go through a process of trying to relinquish and let go of the ill effects of that. This is very characteristic as part of the 12-step programs that many recovering alcoholics and people recovering from other addictions have to go through. You understand this very well, given your medical background. Drew, right? You take a moral inventory. I think it's step four, right?

And then go through a process of trying to relinquish and let go of the ill effects of that. This is very characteristic as part of the 12-step programs that many recovering alcoholics and people recovering from other addictions have to go through. You understand this very well, given your medical background. Drew, right? You take a moral inventory. I think it's step four, right?

And then you go in subsequent steps. You go through this process of trying to make amends and make apologies and seeking forgiveness from others, but also offering that to others who have wronged you. This is a very powerful process. It's not easy. Many people find support.

And then you go in subsequent steps. You go through this process of trying to make amends and make apologies and seeking forgiveness from others, but also offering that to others who have wronged you. This is a very powerful process. It's not easy. Many people find support.

So I think getting on X and arguing in the comments section with Taylor Lorenz is a project obviously doomed to failure, which is why none of the three of us is spending a lot of time doing that. We all intuitively know we're just going to get stuck there in an endless, infinite cycle.

So I think getting on X and arguing in the comments section with Taylor Lorenz is a project obviously doomed to failure, which is why none of the three of us is spending a lot of time doing that. We all intuitively know we're just going to get stuck there in an endless, infinite cycle.

Yeah, it's the crowd. So that's the key. That was going to be the point that I was going to make. I mean, the only reason to have public debates with someone like that, if there is a reason, is not for them, but for the person who's listening. Right. To see how an individual like that behaves versus how you behave in conversation and in public discourse.

Yeah, it's the crowd. So that's the key. That was going to be the point that I was going to make. I mean, the only reason to have public debates with someone like that, if there is a reason, is not for them, but for the person who's listening. Right. To see how an individual like that behaves versus how you behave in conversation and in public discourse.

To reach the muddy middle majority of people that are not in the 20% who are already entirely hypnotized and who are not going to budge and not in the 10, 15% who are not drinking the Kool-Aid, but who can be swayed either by reasonable voices on one end or by propaganda or the hypnotized mass on the other end. Those are the folks that we're trying to reach.

To reach the muddy middle majority of people that are not in the 20% who are already entirely hypnotized and who are not going to budge and not in the 10, 15% who are not drinking the Kool-Aid, but who can be swayed either by reasonable voices on one end or by propaganda or the hypnotized mass on the other end. Those are the folks that we're trying to reach.

And just to use those two examples that you just mentioned, right, if if they convince 60, 80% of the population of what they're saying, that's only going to strengthen their own convictions.

And just to use those two examples that you just mentioned, right, if if they convince 60, 80% of the population of what they're saying, that's only going to strengthen their own convictions.

But if, if they find themselves, you know, in a 20% minority where the rest of the population is not going on and going along with them, that might be the only occasion for them to introduce some doubts into their own thinking, because these people are so mimetic and they're so, they don't have an original thought in their head, right?

But if, if they find themselves, you know, in a 20% minority where the rest of the population is not going on and going along with them, that might be the only occasion for them to introduce some doubts into their own thinking, because these people are so mimetic and they're so, they don't have an original thought in their head, right?

None of Taylor Lorenz's ideas are ones that she dreamed up on her own. They're all borrowed from some weird zeitgeist and always moving in this kind of toxic direction. And so I think it seems to me that the answer is not to try to persuade those people.

None of Taylor Lorenz's ideas are ones that she dreamed up on her own. They're all borrowed from some weird zeitgeist and always moving in this kind of toxic direction. And so I think it seems to me that the answer is not to try to persuade those people.