Aaron Cariotti

If you do engage with them, realize that you're not actually going to persuade or change their mind, but you can do that as a demonstration to them. the onlookers of maybe a different way of engaging in public discourse and different set of ethical principles that you're trying to advance and so forth.

If you do engage with them, realize that you're not actually going to persuade or change their mind, but you can do that as a demonstration to them. the onlookers of maybe a different way of engaging in public discourse and different set of ethical principles that you're trying to advance and so forth.

So those are the folks that I think we're really trying to reach, the people who are sitting back quietly just observing and listening and trying to get their bearings. We need to be a voice in the public square. And I say we as though I'm always behaving virtuously and I'm never prone to mass formation myself. I mean, all of us are vulnerable to these things.

So those are the folks that I think we're really trying to reach, the people who are sitting back quietly just observing and listening and trying to get their bearings. We need to be a voice in the public square. And I say we as though I'm always behaving virtuously and I'm never prone to mass formation myself. I mean, all of us are vulnerable to these things.

All of us are vulnerable to being wrong. So also the epistemic and intellectual humility to recognize that we don't have all the answers and the stance that I have all the answers and I'm one of the righteous rather than just another flawed person imperfect, you know, sinful member of the human species. I think that's, that's important as well.

All of us are vulnerable to being wrong. So also the epistemic and intellectual humility to recognize that we don't have all the answers and the stance that I have all the answers and I'm one of the righteous rather than just another flawed person imperfect, you know, sinful member of the human species. I think that's, that's important as well.

Yeah, I think that's right. And I think Whenever I speak, assuming that I am not infallible and I could be wrong and I want to maintain an open disposition, which feels vulnerable. I mean, intellectual certainty provides some sense of security. That's why people seek it out so fiercely and cling to their ideas so fiercely.

Yeah, I think that's right. And I think Whenever I speak, assuming that I am not infallible and I could be wrong and I want to maintain an open disposition, which feels vulnerable. I mean, intellectual certainty provides some sense of security. That's why people seek it out so fiercely and cling to their ideas so fiercely.

And so to be able to let go of some of that security and just, I'm open to being persuaded. I'm open to being convinced and let's learn how to have civil dialogue and debate.

And so to be able to let go of some of that security and just, I'm open to being persuaded. I'm open to being convinced and let's learn how to have civil dialogue and debate.

Well, so that's that's a great update. And just I'll answer your question about the case in just a minute. There has been a recent positive development in the case. But just by way of background, many of your viewers and listeners will know this. But for those who don't. So Missouri versus Biden later turned Murphy v. Missouri.

Well, so that's that's a great update. And just I'll answer your question about the case in just a minute. There has been a recent positive development in the case. But just by way of background, many of your viewers and listeners will know this. But for those who don't. So Missouri versus Biden later turned Murphy v. Missouri.

is a case challenging government censorship on social media that I am a plaintiff in, along with the state of Missouri, Louisiana, and four other private plaintiffs. And one of those other private plaintiffs, Jay Bhattacharya, My dear friend and colleague has recently been appointed the director of the National Institute of Health.

is a case challenging government censorship on social media that I am a plaintiff in, along with the state of Missouri, Louisiana, and four other private plaintiffs. And one of those other private plaintiffs, Jay Bhattacharya, My dear friend and colleague has recently been appointed the director of the National Institute of Health.

And he was censored by the previous director of the National Institute of Health. We have an internal email that we got on FOIA discovery

And he was censored by the previous director of the National Institute of Health. We have an internal email that we got on FOIA discovery

between Francis Collins, former director, and Anthony Fauci, saying that we need a, quote, swift and devastating takedown of the premises of the Great Barrington Declaration, which Jay co-authored, along with Martin Kulldorff, one of our other- A fringe epidemiologist. Yeah, and he called them fringe epidemiologists.

between Francis Collins, former director, and Anthony Fauci, saying that we need a, quote, swift and devastating takedown of the premises of the Great Barrington Declaration, which Jay co-authored, along with Martin Kulldorff, one of our other- A fringe epidemiologist. Yeah, and he called them fringe epidemiologists.

And now this fringe epidemiologist is going to replace him as director of the NIH. I agree, that's just poetic justice at work there. Another interesting development in terms of government appointments

And now this fringe epidemiologist is going to replace him as director of the NIH. I agree, that's just poetic justice at work there. Another interesting development in terms of government appointments