Aaron Fulkerson

And, you know, look, we put out all the source code so other people could have picked up and run with the open source community.

uh it's when you don't have a driving force behind it like typically the founders of an open source project it dies they actually they atrophy and die yeah i will tell you i still like i'll go to events and um i was just at dreamforce the big salesforce event and people still come up to me to this day six years later and they're like oh yeah we're using the open source that's so funny

We have not released a patch or an update to that since January of 2010.

And I'll have people who come up and say, oh, you're Aaron.

You and Steve did MindTouch, and you guys did that Enterprise Wiki.

This was just last year.

I built a $12 million annual consulting business just doing services on your open source.

I'm like, you were doing four times more than we were, man.

Well, you know, we don't we don't disclose the revenue.

And there's good reasons because we have certain partnerships that preclude us from doing that.

Yeah.

Well, you know, we're doing, we're, we're well into eight figures, right?

And a better way to think about it, I think is this, the kind of scale that we're driving on our cloud infrastructure.

So we have, we have, um, over 300 customers.

Okay.

And, okay.

Yeah.

So there's, there's, um,

just over 300.

And then if you look at like our number of events that we do monthly, we're doing like a billion events monthly.