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Aaron Retica

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The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

And why is he even talking about it? Well, he's talking about it.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

I want to push back on that a little bit because to me, the Trump obsession with hierarchy and gold and class is That way of looking at the world, right? What they want is a world where people know their place and don't step out of it.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

I want to push back on that a little bit because to me, the Trump obsession with hierarchy and gold and class is That way of looking at the world, right? What they want is a world where people know their place and don't step out of it.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

But the obsession with purity, right, which we even know he has at the level of germs, when you have a person talking about immigrants poisoning the blood of the country, as he famously did during the campaign. When you have this hierarchy mixed with the purity, very bad things can come from that. So let me put it this way, right? You have... Going back to this idea of the split screen, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

But the obsession with purity, right, which we even know he has at the level of germs, when you have a person talking about immigrants poisoning the blood of the country, as he famously did during the campaign. When you have this hierarchy mixed with the purity, very bad things can come from that. So let me put it this way, right? You have... Going back to this idea of the split screen, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

You have real America, fake America, real Americans, fake Americans, real men, fake men, real women, fake women, real news, fake news, all those things, right? So you're circling on a much smaller world. And that was evident in the speech at the end, the peroration at the end, right? They go on about, you know, American energy, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

You have real America, fake America, real Americans, fake Americans, real men, fake men, real women, fake women, real news, fake news, all those things, right? So you're circling on a much smaller world. And that was evident in the speech at the end, the peroration at the end, right? They go on about, you know, American energy, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

And the only mention of Native Americans, the people who were here, was his jibe about Elizabeth Warren and Pocahontas.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

And the only mention of Native Americans, the people who were here, was his jibe about Elizabeth Warren and Pocahontas.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So I do think that there's a certain idea of America that is retrograde in its deepest sense that they're trying to restore that's not accepting of the expansion of rights that began in the 60s and the 70s.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So I do think that there's a certain idea of America that is retrograde in its deepest sense that they're trying to restore that's not accepting of the expansion of rights that began in the 60s and the 70s.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Dominance was a central theme of the speech. It's been a central theme since they came back into power in January. Can we talk a little bit about that part of it, right? So there's dominance over the people within your clan, but we're also now talking about, as he said in the inaugural speech, expanding the territory of the United States. And he brought it up again last night.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Dominance was a central theme of the speech. It's been a central theme since they came back into power in January. Can we talk a little bit about that part of it, right? So there's dominance over the people within your clan, but we're also now talking about, as he said in the inaugural speech, expanding the territory of the United States. And he brought it up again last night.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

We're going to retake the Panama Canal. There was a bizarre section about Greenland.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

We're going to retake the Panama Canal. There was a bizarre section about Greenland.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So how do they use this rhetoric and make it reality, right? They're doing it in some ways, right? Even the ridiculous... Contra-temp about the Gulf of America and the Gulf of Mexico, right, ended up having real-world consequences for the Associated Press, right, because they wouldn't toe the line, and now they're out.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So how do they use this rhetoric and make it reality, right? They're doing it in some ways, right? Even the ridiculous... Contra-temp about the Gulf of America and the Gulf of Mexico, right, ended up having real-world consequences for the Associated Press, right, because they wouldn't toe the line, and now they're out.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a cross between the Andrew Jackson that he supposedly idolized in the first administration and, as everyone's been saying, including him, and he mentioned him again last night, William McKinleyβ€”

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a cross between the Andrew Jackson that he supposedly idolized in the first administration and, as everyone's been saying, including him, and he mentioned him again last night, William McKinleyβ€”

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

who, could he hear all this, would be surprised to find himself as the center of the movement of anything. But what is the fusion between those two things, right? It's domination over the environment, which we haven't talked about, but that's a huge part of what they want to, right? We're going to drill a baby drill. We're going to have gas. We're going to cut all the timber, right?