Abbie Chatfield

Then don't do racist things.

Or if you're told that and you don't want to hear it, then block it out.

I'm not even saying like then do better.

Like if you don't think you're anything wrong –

Then continue doing what you're doing.

Yeah, exactly.

What legislation has been put into place that's punished you for that?

There's none.

What changes to society have changed your life?

There's none.

It's also interesting that all these people that are anti-immigration or homophobic or transphobic or whatever...

Either they've not met an immigrant or they aren't aware of it anyway or it's – They're just willfully ignorant.

Yes.

Or they've not met a trans person or they have and they go, yeah, but they're all right.

Like, yeah, but the one trans person I've met, yeah, but they're all right because they don't shout in my face.

It's like interesting that usually when you guys have met specific people from the group that you hate, they're all right, but the group as a whole –

That you don't know.

They must be awful.

Your only sample size often shows you that they're actually normal people because they are just normal fucking people.

Like it's not even like, oh, and it's shown that, you know, trans people and immigrants are all angels.