Abbie Chatfield

Yeah.

But he says that nice guys are an issue because, as he puts it, these guys end up acting as emotional tampons for women.

They listen attentively as their female friends tell them about what jerks the real men in their lives are.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Sorry.

By that point, they've usually already had kids by some jerk who bailed on them and the kids and the thought of settling down with a weak-willed man who will stick around and bringing steady paycheck is starting to have an appeal.

So he's saying nice guys are merely weak-willed men who essentially get the dregs of the alpha males and

who have bailed on them after having kids and now you're left with women who will only want you for your steady paycheck and your weak will.

It's a really bizarre approach to the world.

Well, yeah, and also like God forbid you are a man.

Like the way that –

The way that this is framed is like, and you're nothing.

You'll be left with the worst.

You're left with some random guy's kids.

And this is still a big thing in the manosphere where it's like, what are you going to do, raise some random guy's kids?

Like, what the fuck?

What the fuck's putting that?

Like, you can't have a woman that's ever had kids before.

She should be a virgin.

No tattoos, no debt.