Abbie Chatfield

I don't know if this is just something where because of people I knew when I grew up that I became hyper aware of it at a younger age because I grew up with friends where my friend's dad was at the time a very prominent, recognisable public figure.

Who was it?

It was Marie Weigel.

So, you know, picture this.

It's 2002 and you're at the pub.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

Big deal.

Hello.

So I got the sense from a very young age where we would all be hanging out

And then you could really quickly clock when like people on the other side of the room are all turning and looking and you're just sort of sitting there going like, oh, that's a bit weird.

It's so uncomfortable.

The stairs as well.

Like when I walk into a room, like I had, you know, I had a group therapy session one time and in group therapy they were all talking about

what, you know, oh, the anxiety of walking into a room and people looking at you and the group therapist was like, but no one's really looking at you.

And I'm going, well, they fucking are with me and they actually got their phones out.

They're taking photos.

And I'm not saying that I'm Margot Robbie walking around going, and they're all chasing me.

But I am saying it's this weird level where, like, I also just want to go to the pub and hang out with my friends and see my friends.

And it already takes me a lot to leave the house in general, let alone –