Abbie Chatfield

Yeah, that's what I'm asking.

Is this like a research out of fear almost in the way that women look at true crime?

100%.

But you're going, oh, am I?

Yeah, finally, finally.

They're seeing it through a male lens yet again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How do you feel about – is it momentary insanity technically?

Is that what they would say it is?

Or it's a whole different –

it is well it's different these are old cases yes and some of these women would now probably get a battered woman defense as well like it's like complicated it always it always ends up being that like honestly every single time you go and there there was this crazy woman who like um uh is it lorraine bobbitt who cut off her um her partner's penis he was an abuser yeah

Yes, and everyone goes, oh, cut off his dick.

It's like, no, no, no, he was an abuser to her.

He was her perpetrator and she was trying to, she obviously went fucking insane.

Duh, as though you wouldn't.

So there's always an element of that as well.

Yes, and the moral panic around women.

Exactly.

Does this intersect with the timing of, I guess, post-bra burning feminists?