Abby Wambach

I don't know.

It depends whether you define vacations in Abby's terms as depriving yourself of modern luxuries so that you can enjoy your everyday life more, or as Glennon does, depriving

indulging in modern luxuries so that you can enjoy the rest of your life more.

All right.

All right.

Second one.

Glennon, I love your books and want to tell my own story, but I am struggling with feeling self-indulgent with it.

Do you ever feel like it's totally self-centered and egotistical to write books about yourself?

It's like you have written three memoirs, not because you believe you're exceptional, but precisely because you believe that you are not exceptional.

That like this is a state of the human condition.

And if you believed you were exceptional, all the better for you.

I'm just saying that your belief that the more specific and intimate the story is, the more universal it is of the human experience.

happens to be why that you're producing this work.

That if you were like, look at me, I'm a rare little unicorn and I want to tell you about myself, then the motivation to be curious about that would be less robust.

Yes.

I also think there's something...

Oh, sorry.

Go ahead.

Yes.

It's like it takes a lot more arrogance –